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1 posted on 06/25/2017 2:22:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 06/25/2017 2:27:57 PM PDT by gaijin
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Civil Asset Forfeiture is a direct offshoot of the war on drugs. And any conservative who doesn’t condemn it isn’t a real conservative.


3 posted on 06/25/2017 2:29:03 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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The "judge" in United States v. Seventeen Thousand Nine Hundred Dollars in United States Currency is Christopher R. Cooper, an 0bama plant on the fedcourts.

Cooper is big on BigGov.

He replaced Royce Lamberth.

6 posted on 06/25/2017 2:38:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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I'm no expert on the subject but have done some reading.I can see where some aspects of civil forfeiture might be reasonable.If a large sum of cash or some other valuable thing (jewels,etc) is found it might be reasonable to temporarily take custody of it pending *criminal charges* being filed that are *connected* to the valuable thing (e.g.,drug dealing).If the person is convicted and the jury specifies that the valuable thing was the fruit of that crime then the convicted person doesn't get it back.

Also,the criminal charges I mentioned must be filed within a brief time frame (perhaps 30 days) or else the valuable thing must be returned.

Also,it must be specified that if the person is placed on trial and is found not guilty he/she is entitled to bigtime damages...perhaps $100,000.

8 posted on 06/25/2017 2:43:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Comey = The Swamp Fighting Back)
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There should be no civil asset forfeiture without a conviction for related crimes. None. If that means the bad guys get to keep their loot so the good guys don’t have to endure a grabby government (and it just hasn’t been shown that any government won’t get grabby given the option to be so) then so be it.

There should also be no ordinary civil liability for any situation where the underlying issue is a crime without a conviction for that crime first. Yes, that would mean OJ would have truly walked but is it really the function of our system to make sure someone can extract their pound of flesh however they may?


11 posted on 06/25/2017 2:53:24 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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In illegal alien cases once they are proven to be here illegally should have all their assets forfeited because they are ill gotten gains.

Watch the self deportation begin.


12 posted on 06/25/2017 2:56:16 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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I love this guy:
" Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's interpretation of the Constitution"

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
(dissenting Kelo v. New London)





21 posted on 06/25/2017 3:26:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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When Clarence Thomas goes he will be sorely missed. No standing! Ridiculously absurd.


22 posted on 06/25/2017 3:26:31 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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This seizure crap, is completely against USConstitution. The supreme law needs be followed, or perish.


23 posted on 06/25/2017 3:40:16 PM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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The lesbians’ (yes, they’re ‘special’ people in the DC Circuit) story is hilarious.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/DEA-to-Keep-18000-Amtrak-Passenger-Found-in-Backpack-389680831.html

But they certainly do have the right to make it before a jury.


27 posted on 06/25/2017 3:47:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Bravo to a great, great, great American!!!


31 posted on 06/25/2017 3:54:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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He’s right.


36 posted on 06/25/2017 4:54:10 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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could Leonard bring her case back ?


37 posted on 06/25/2017 4:58:11 PM PDT by stylin19a
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Justice Clarence Thomas made it clear that in his view modern asset forfeiture law is fundamentally incompatible with the U.S. Constitution.

I do love this man.

He like Mary Poppins, practically perfect in every way.

39 posted on 06/25/2017 5:10:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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Outlaw police from getting one dime. All seized asserts go to paying down national or state debt and only after conviction of a crime that proves the assets came from criminal acts.


51 posted on 06/26/2017 1:33:07 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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This ‘asset forfeiture’ law legalizes armed robbery on the side of the road and any member of law enforcement who steals money from innocent people deserves what happens to them when people defend themselves from armed robbery.

The law be damned: it’s robbery under color of authority and if someone fights back against it then good for them.


57 posted on 06/26/2017 8:35:04 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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