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U.S. Tells North Korea It Is Prepared to Go to War
WSJ ^ | 07/05/17 | Jonathan Cheng

Posted on 07/05/2017 11:37:10 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Pyongyang claims a further breakthrough toward a nuclear-tipped missile that can reach American cities

SEOUL—The U.S. warned North Korea that it is ready to fight if provoked, as Pyongyang claimed another weapons-development breakthrough following its launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile a day earlier.

The regime, having demonstrated its capacity to reach the U.S. with a missile, on Wednesday touted another achievement of the test launch: It claimed that its missile warhead—the forward section, which carries the explosive—can withstand the extreme heat and pressure of re-entering the earth’s atmosphere.

If true—the claim couldn’t be independently verified—that would clear another hurdle in developing a nuclear-tipped missile that can reach American cities.

As tensions between Washington and Pyongyang rose, Gen. Vincent Brooks, the top American military commander in South Korea, said in a statement Wednesday that the U.S. and South Korea are prepared to go to war with the North if given the order.

Earlier in the day, allied armies conducted a rare live-fire drill, launching tactical surface-to-surface missiles off the east coast of Korea—an action they said was aimed directly at “countering North Korea’s destabilizing and unlawful actions on July 4.”

The drill and tough language appeared meant to reassure Seoul after North Korea’s successful ICBM test, a significant advance.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson described the development as an escalation of the threat to the U.S. It came despite years of sanctions and warnings aimed at preventing Kim Jong Un’s regime from reaching the milestone.

Washington has considered military action against North Korea, but pulling the trigger presents serious risks. Seoul, a city of 10 million, sits just 35 miles from the North Korean border, where Pyongyang has assembled artillery that could inflict devastating damage on the densely populated South Korean capital.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: nknukes; northkorea; prepared; second100days; trump45; trumpasia; us; war
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To: Enlightened1
San Fran will soon be within range - they don't have to be dead nuts, but a 500 lb warhead producing a 10 Kt yield (like our 1950's era technology) within 50 miles of the city would be catastrophic.
especially if you're a 49'ers fan....
21 posted on 07/05/2017 12:53:28 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: spetznaz

Please identify the artillery with such range.


22 posted on 07/05/2017 12:56:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: spetznaz

Stealth bombers could take out artillary, comms, radar
and power beforr the North knew what happened.


23 posted on 07/05/2017 1:00:33 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Enlightened1
U.S. Tells North Korea It Is Prepared to Go to War

But but but....we've already been at war with North Korea....since WWII.

Time to end it?

24 posted on 07/05/2017 1:04:19 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: Enlightened1
"John has a long mustache", "Repeat", "John has a long mustache"
25 posted on 07/05/2017 1:11:06 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mariner
"Koksan" self propelled artillery. Made in North Korea. Used by their good buddies the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war. Maximum firing range 60km.

Yeah, I know. Wikipedia. Probably made the whole thing up.

Not.

26 posted on 07/05/2017 1:11:17 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Mariner
KN-09 rocket artillery. Made just for you in the Glorious Peoples' Democratic Workers' Paradise of North Korea.

Yeah. I know. Wikipedia.

They probably made the whole thing up.

Not.

27 posted on 07/05/2017 1:16:18 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Mariner
would any one of you trade Seattle to save Seoul?

Hmmmmm...Seattle, full of "enemies domestic"...queers, moonbats, bums, parasites, and other communists.....

Seoul....Christians, an economic and manufacturing powerhouse, a major trading partner,, the sixth most competitive city in the world.

How about we keep Seoul, and have him take out Seattle, Portland and San Fransicko? Then blow him up.

28 posted on 07/05/2017 1:20:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: spetznaz

The actual distance from the DMZ to Seoul is 35 miles, not 30km.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/03/11/why-north-korea-cant-flatten-seoul/


29 posted on 07/05/2017 1:24:27 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: NorthMountain

With Rocket Assisted shells, it has a maximum range of 37 miles.

Just how many such shells do they have?

And how many Koksan 170mm tubes are within range of Seoul?

500?


30 posted on 07/05/2017 1:27:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
And that is what we call "moving the goal post".

You asked. I answered. Twice, in fact. I've done part of your homework for you. Now, if you want to support your (apparent) claim that the Norks don't realistically threaten Seoul, you'll have to do the rest of the heavy lifting yourself.

What you CAN NOT do is claim that no artillery with range >= 35 miles exists. You now know that it does. Furthermore, if you count rocket artillery (Does the target know the difference when it's getting blown up?), the range is much greater than your 35 mile threshold.

I await your well sourced essay on the quantity and quality of Nork artillery.

31 posted on 07/05/2017 1:34:56 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Enlightened1

North Korea won’t ever train its weapons on China, so China could not care less if the NORKS have nukes.

Actually the Chicoms probably in some covert form are giving the green light to the NORKS to yank our chain. If the shooting starts they may reevaluate their position.


32 posted on 07/05/2017 1:35:55 PM PDT by CodeJockey (I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learners permit.)
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To: NorthMountain

Are you holding your breath?


33 posted on 07/05/2017 1:41:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Of course not. I’m fully confident that you won’t deliver.


34 posted on 07/05/2017 1:45:58 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Not sure that’s true.


35 posted on 07/05/2017 1:48:32 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: tjd1454

Is now the time to buy oil stock? Oil always spike when a major military event happens.


36 posted on 07/05/2017 2:07:57 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: bgill

China has no excuse.


China has been playing a game. They have been using NK as their attack dog to buy them leverage. Now it looks like the attack dog may actually cause a shooting war.

The wildcard is still China. Will they defend NK or eat popcorn and watch it happen?


37 posted on 07/05/2017 2:49:22 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: NorthMountain

“Now, if you want to support your (apparent) claim that the Norks don’t realistically threaten Seoul, you’ll have to do the rest of the heavy lifting yourself.”

Certainly, contrary to what I posted, Norklandia can hit Seoul with artillery.

But out of their total 20,000 artillery pieces there are but around 1,000 with sufficient range and within range to do so.

Those battalions will have a short, but very exciting life against counter battery and air suppression.

A single B-1B can carry 24 of these, a B-52 over a dozen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY9gojFu-_U

Nay, any threat to Seoul is minor and short-lived.


38 posted on 07/05/2017 2:59:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Enlightened1

Apologies to all the libs and libertarian crypto-liberals here but if a destructive attack happens on Trumps watch without preemption although (D) enabled the psycho in the 1st place (R) will get blamed for the fallout real and political.

Hard to take an isolationist stance when we have invested so much over there in every way. The US and their allies are not going to be attacked with or without nukes without a devastating retaliation and if Russia and China let it happen then they will have to live with the aftermath next door.


39 posted on 07/05/2017 3:23:43 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: bgill

Japanese constitution was drawn up under US occupation . Artcle 9 : CHAPTER II

RENUNCIATION OF WAR

Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.


40 posted on 07/05/2017 3:25:56 PM PDT by sushiman
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