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To: BobL

I also think that, given how corrupted and decayed our institutions are, we need to now consider what things are worth preserving and what have been so completely infiltrated and co-opted by our enemies as to be essentially a weapon being wielded against us in this war.

For example, should we really be defending “freedom of the press,” when doing so merely protects the lying, anti-Christian, anti-American MSM? Should we continue to operate as if the Democrat Party is still loyal to America, when it clearly is not? Should we just pretend that we don’t notice that public schools and secular colleges have become indoctrination farms for the anti-American left?

Trump’s primary Constitutional obligation is to protect the country. That is an obligation higher than following any statutes passed by Congress. Even the rest of the Constitution has to be understood in that context. The Constitution does us no good if we lose America.

Also: Based on the Law of God, from which the Constitution was derived, Trump has an even higher obligation than all that. It’s to protect Christian Civilization.

Whatever is required is what Trump needs to do. Just as Pinochet had to step outside legalism to fulfill his obligations to Chile and God, Trump must be willing to do the same to protect OUR nation and God’s plan for it.


58 posted on 07/16/2017 2:16:26 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

GREAT POST!!!! (and I wanted to go back to bed)

For example, should we really be defending “freedom of the press,” when doing so merely protects the lying, anti-Christian, anti-American MSM?

You’ll anger some people here if you press that, at least I did when I wanted their exemption against lawsuits removed. They are now, indisputably, a POLITICAL ENTITY - they’ve chosen to leave their First Amendment protections, and they need to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

Should we continue to operate as if the Democrat Party is still loyal to America, when it clearly is not?

The first step there is convincing elected Republicans of what you’re saying...not to mention convincing the country of the same. There is a natural default position that if a person has a blue passport, then they must love the country. The media PROTECTS those people by suppressing obvious evidence that they, in fact, hate America...so we have to work hard to get around that layer of protection...but most people cannot do that, or will not. So you tell them that the left hates America and all they see is the ‘loyal opposition’ who just happens to disagree with them on a few issues...it’s a big challenge, but we must fight it.

“Should we just pretend that we don’t notice that public schools and secular colleges have become indoctrination farms for the anti-American left?”
Again, the default position is that the public schools are simply ‘doing their best’, given the ‘limited resources’ that they’re always whining about. Never mind that private schools do much better with half the per-student cost. I’ve lost more friends trying to tell them what our public schools have become. They know me, my family, and my kids, and great they’ve done by NEVER having stepped a foot in a public school. Their response: “That’s great BobL, but our kids aren’t Einsteins, so we’ll trust ‘the experts’ to raise them (the teachers).”, with implication that our kids would have been just fine if they were simply left to ‘the system’, which is totally wrong, at least in our case. Sadly I’ve given up - even some FReepers attack me when I tell them they should consider living in a small apartment or crappy area, so that they can properly raise and educate their kids (i.e., no public schools) - they seem PERFECTLY HAPPY to roll the dice with a bunch of math-hating, and often traditional family-hating activists raising their kids, as long as they have that nice house, and nice truck.

“Pinochet” The Left still seethes when they hear that name. Chile had two options back then: Become like Reagan’s America, or become like Cuba. Pinochet saved them...and made sure that they were safe for decades by putting systems in place that led to their prosperity. I dream of the day we can do the same - which is to finally rid ourselves or Leftists as a viable political force. I don’t mind Libertarians as an opposition - while I don’t agree with them, they don’t actually DESPISE this country as Leftists do...I think that’s where our political debate needs to move to - Libertarians versus Republicans. The Left needs to be ended as a political force, at least until they can show some actual loyalty to at least our Constitution...which will probably be never.


61 posted on 07/16/2017 3:00:07 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
should we really be defending “freedom of the press,” when doing so merely protects the lying, anti-Christian, anti-American MSM?
Yes, the First Amendment is non-negotiable when understood rightly. 1A does not establish titles of nobility in contravention of Article 1 Section 9. And 1A is a prohibition of an established priesthood whom Americans are obliged to submit to.

It follows from that that “freedom . . . of the press” is a right of the people. Freedom of speech is the right of the people to say (within very wide limits) what they wanna - and to listen to whoever they wanna. Freedom of the press is the right of the people to spend their own money on presses, ink, and paper or whatever technology anyone uses for the purpose of promoting their political, or other, opinion.

This means that constituting the Federal Election Commission was an abuse of Congressional authority, and it should be sued for exercising any of its putative powers. It also calls the FEC into question.

Note that the framers of the Constitution

Article 1 Section 8.:
The Congress shall have power . . . To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries . . .
did anticipate radio, TV, the Internet, and so forth - in principle. So it would seem arguably unconstitutional, under the Ninth Amendment, for the government to shut down the Internet or radio or TV.
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89 posted on 07/16/2017 9:34:24 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be “associated,” or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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