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‘Calexit’ backers confident about latest plan to leave the United States
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 31, 2017 | BY ANGELA HART

Posted on 07/31/2017 2:39:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The people behind California’s latest effort to leave the United States are confident this time and are preparing to fan out across the Golden State to collect signatures for a 2018 ballot initiative

It would repeal a provision of the California Constitution stating that the state is “an inseparable part of the United States...up to and including agreement establishing California as a fully independent country,” the ballot language reads.

“We feel like this current initiative is more feasible and will hold up more to scrutiny and legal challenges,” said Steve Gonzales, a member of the group California Freedom Coalition. A first attempt fizzled and was withdrawn.

California’s economy comprises nearly one-seventh of the nation’s total economic output, the analysis found.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional for states to unilaterally secede from the U.S., and any move allowing secession would require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aztlan; calexit
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But will they still want those federal dollars?


21 posted on 07/31/2017 3:02:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All it takes is for the USA to bring back crops that were sent to Kali to take advantage of illegal alien labor and Kali is done. Toss in the aerospace programs we would no longer allow in Kali, and the fact that to transport into the US will require not using Kali ports, and there is no way the place can possible survive.


22 posted on 07/31/2017 3:04:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: MeganC

“The day after California leaves the USA the Mexicans will commence the ethnic purging of the state just as they have always promised.”

Without questions, they will. Liberal whites in Kali are morons for going along with the anti-White, anti-American program.


23 posted on 07/31/2017 3:05:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Where can I send a Donation for the cause?


24 posted on 07/31/2017 3:08:53 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Absolutely ludicrous. It’s a waste of time to even discus. The federal government will never let it happen essentially ceding 1/7 of our economy,essential military bases and West coast to Mexico and China etc. A more realistic scenario is splitting California up into new states one of which “Jefferson” will be “red” right off the bat. Northern, Central,and Western California are not as insane as Southern California.


25 posted on 07/31/2017 3:11:04 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, ..... bye...


26 posted on 07/31/2017 3:13:40 PM PDT by LIConFem
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To: ealgeone
Though I wouldn’t mind San Fran and Lost Angeles to leave we’ve already had this conversation from 1861-1865.

The legality of secession was not seriously debated. What happened was the side with the most people and guns subjugated the other people who wanted out.

27 posted on 07/31/2017 3:16:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MeganC

Thanks so much for that link. When I go looking for these articles I can never pose the right question to Bing or Google


28 posted on 07/31/2017 3:21:39 PM PDT by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: Drango

CALexit is a worthy goal for both sides


29 posted on 07/31/2017 3:24:41 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cool, we’ll never have a Democrat president again, Feinstein and Kamala gone from the Senate. Californians needing a passport to visit Texas and not being able to move anywhere else in America without getting naturalized. No more California in environmental law or in automotive standards. No USA bailing out their broke government.

There are some serious upsides here.


30 posted on 07/31/2017 3:25:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Technically, they won't be illegal in the new independent nation of California. They ought to be grandfathered in as citizens.

-PJ

31 posted on 07/31/2017 3:25:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...any move allowing secession would require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

I would support individual amendments on a state-by-state basis where the state asks to leave, rather than a general amendment laying out a process of secession for all where the other states have no say.

-PJ

32 posted on 07/31/2017 3:30:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ain’t gonna happen, but I’d give a month’s pay to see it happen.


33 posted on 07/31/2017 3:33:47 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Split it. Let the South go, The State of Jefferson would not mind remianing part of the union wihtout them.


34 posted on 07/31/2017 3:35:33 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let them, we invade arrest those who are responsible


35 posted on 07/31/2017 3:35:34 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another scam to separate idiots from their money.

The only way to leave the Union is, at a minimum, Congressional approval and, at a maximum, a constitutional amendment.


36 posted on 07/31/2017 3:37:09 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: poinq

Can we just expel them?


38 posted on 07/31/2017 3:38:46 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: JBW1949

California is a Net Payer of federal taxes. It does not get more than it receives.


39 posted on 07/31/2017 3:39:02 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“The legality of secession was not seriously debated. What happened was the side with the most people and guns subjugated the other people who wanted out.”

That’s a fact. The federal government did not want to lose the revenues it was collecting from the Southern states. In 1861 the LAST thing the federal government wanted was to lose the lucrative element of the Southern states, with their agricultural engine and their four-season ports. It still had California, but it was too far away, still relatively undeveloped, and the Panama Canal was still forty years in the future). The fact is that in 1861 the federal government needed the Southern states far more than the Southern states needed the federal government.


40 posted on 07/31/2017 3:39:49 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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