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GOP Rep. Introduces Legislation to Nullify State-Level Gun Controls
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| July 31,2017
| AWR Hawkins
Posted on 08/02/2017 8:26:22 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm
Tell that to the people living in New York, California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Illinois, and other states already living in a restricted hell and outlaws in their own country from unconstitutional laws... In that case they need to get the courts to overturn unconstitutional laws. Making more federal laws is not the solution to any problem.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:19:13 AM PDT
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: Repeal 16-17
This should get through the House, but the Senate would be more difficult. Would the Senate RINOs support this bill?This is going to go as far as the reciprocity bills.
Nowhere.
It will languish in a committee and never see a vote.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:19:22 AM PDT
by
NY.SS-Bar9
(Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
To: palmer
In that case they need to get the courts to overturn unconstitutional laws. Making more federal laws is not the solution to any problem.So federal enforcement of the Second Amendment is fine, but only when done by federal judges?
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:26:48 AM PDT
by
Repeal 16-17
(Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
To: DoodleDawg
I am quite aware of Heller decision.
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
The Amendment concerns the MINIMUM that BOTH federal government AND the states MUST give there assent to. That is what the 14th Amendment is about.
AMENDMENT XIV, Section I.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
WTH good is a Constitution if the states are able to ignore whatever part they choose. Or are you a fan of "cafeteria Republicanism"?
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:28:58 AM PDT
by
JME_FAN
To: DoodleDawg
It’s a SECOND AMENDMENT issue ... the state AND federal “gun control laws” are all unconstitutional.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:30:15 AM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
To: generally
US citizens should NOT be barred from keeping and bearing arms . The feds have no more business infringing RKBA than the States.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:31:23 AM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
To: LIConFem
I wonder about unintended consequences here. All the feds have to do is ban guns at that level and state sovereignty be damned, they are banned.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:34:36 AM PDT
by
jurroppi1
(The Left doesnÂ’t have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
To: DoodleDawg
It's a 10th Amendment issue.Here's the 10th Amendment:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The gun regulations imposed by some States are "prohibited by it" (i.e., the Constitution) via the Second Amendment, which applies to the States through the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. So this is not a 10th Amendment issue.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:39:18 AM PDT
by
Repeal 16-17
(Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
To: Repeal 16-17
That’s correct. The Federal judicial system must first decide that it is a federal case and second that the federal Constitutional right is being denied by state law.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:40:09 AM PDT
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: palmer
This is the 9'th Circuit Court. They ruled before Hellar there is no constitutional right to absolutely bare arms of any type and allowed the assault weapons restrictions and bullet button nonsense, and rifle registration. That is still law in California, which just also banned magazines over 10 rounds as of July 1, but a Federal judge slapped an injunction, but will go to the 9'th and how do you think they will rule?
Then California banned open carry and the majority of counties do not allow concealed carry and the 9'th held that up, but it went to the SCOTUS and they refused to take the case. So the courts do not work either. This crap has to end at the Federal level and gun rights need to be national protected and the same where ever you live or travel.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:40:41 AM PDT
by
Mat_Helm
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:41:45 AM PDT
by
PROCON
(President Reagan, your worthy successor has arrived to save our beloved America)
To: Mat_Helm
Congress can fix the courts and leave federalism in place. Congress does not get to interpret the Consitution. They can make laws that they believe to be Constitutional but it is not their call to decide what state laws are and aren’t Constitutional.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:47:57 AM PDT
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: Mat_Helm
if you kick a rattler, it`ll bite you-
- from Rattlesnake Hill, NY
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:48:41 AM PDT
by
bunkerhill7
((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
To: Mat_Helm
This would be good... but right now, its the best excuse I have to not have to go and visit the in-laws in NY State.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:54:50 AM PDT
by
two23
(82k miles on a scooter. Really.)
To: palmer
That's true regarding the 14th Amendment (see City of Boerne v. Flores (1997)), but a federal preemption law would be based on the Commerce Clause. Preemption applies even when the States would be permitted to legislate. Preemption is based on the Supremacy Clause.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:55:00 AM PDT
by
Repeal 16-17
(Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
To: Mat_Helm
How about we just demand that the constitution and the 2A apply to all states, maybe have gov’t finally define the word “infringe.”
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:55:20 AM PDT
by
umgud
To: palmer
"Congress can fix the courts and leave federalism in place. Congress does not get to interpret the Consitution. They can make laws that they believe to be Constitutional but it is not their call to decide what state laws are and arent Constitutional."So when the magazine ban for more than 10 rounds is held up by the 9'th circuit and goes to SOCTUS and they also allow the 10 rounds restriction, how many states do you think will allow magazines for more than 10 rounds? Than you would need Congress to pass a federal law allowing more than 10 rounds. If SCOTUS refused to take the magazine ban case than the 9'th ruling would stand and affect not just California but Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Arizona, Alaska, Nevada.
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posted on
08/02/2017 9:56:00 AM PDT
by
Mat_Helm
To: Mat_Helm
That would be a very big win for real Americans. Given how long it is taking to repeal the restrictions on silencers, I am not an optimist, but I would love to be proven wrong.
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posted on
08/02/2017 10:00:28 AM PDT
by
Pollster1
("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
To: Mat_Helm
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7241/7048386709_a90f64edcf.jpgI hope it passes and I hope it nullifies the Massachusetts clone of the defunct Federal assault weapons ban. Sure would be nice to get a Ruger Mini-14 tactical with a flash suppressor and a 30 round magazine.
But, I won't hold my breath.
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posted on
08/02/2017 10:07:33 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
To: Mat_Helm
No how’d that pic URL get there?
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posted on
08/02/2017 10:09:20 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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