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To: rlmorel

Do you see anyone attacking his car or provoking fear as he drives into the crowd? Beyond the baseball bat to the tail light there is nothing.


98 posted on 08/14/2017 9:59:44 AM PDT by AmericanRobot
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To: AmericanRobot
Beyond the baseball bat to the tail light there is nothing.

Right. And other than a bullet in his head, Lincoln had an uneventful night at the Ford Theater.

Go back over some of the threads posted by Freepers with links to lengthy YouTube clips from all over Charlottesville on Saturday. One of the common themes in many of them was a bunch of leftist mutants attacking any motorist with out-of-state license plates.

This guy may have been chased down this street by other mutants who had already attacked him.

108 posted on 08/14/2017 10:12:02 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: AmericanRobot

Hear me out on this. This is what many are trying to say:

The guy may indeed have been maliciously driving into the crowd. That is a possibility, but is not given or proven.

Even if this person was a nazi sympathizer or alt-right or extreme-right-winger or anything else, that is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that he was driving his car down narrow streets, was likely getting things thrown at his car, having his car kicked, and people running towards his car before his car ever became visible on cameras.

I say this is likely because I have been at and seen leftist demonstrations before, and most of all, I have seen other videos of this exact same demonstration where other cars (completely unrelated to this incident) are having things thrown, car is being kicked, and crowds of people are rushing to the car and pounding on it, kicking it, hitting it with objects or throwing objects at it.

If that is the case, who is to judge the actions of the person?

If he said in advance he was going to take out people or perform some act of violence, to me, that would be the same as a muslim yelling “Allah Akbar” as he pulls the trigger on a weapon.

But in the absence of that, even if this person said Hitler was a great man, that doesn’t prove he did this intentionally.

Especially from that video which is like looking through a telescope from long range at a section of city street, and all of a sudden people appear in the viewfinder fighting or something else. It is a small visual snippet, and how can you come to conclusions on that? (Because that is what that video posted is, it is like looking at an event through a toilet paper roll.

Also, keep in mind that people panic. A man goes to hit the breaks and hits the gas instead. Couple that with a 400-700 horsepower engine. If you are shifting around looking at things (maybe at someone who was running towards your car with a cinderblock, baseball bat, or other object as you approached) isn’t it plausible, he goosed the gas to get by, and when he looked up, realized he was going to collide with a car in front of him and jammed on the brakes? Hitting his gas pedal instead, or having it slip off the brake and hit the gas?

With a 700 HP engine (or even the lower end HP) do you know what that car is going to do if you goose the gas? It accelerates pretty quickly. Doesn’t take much.

Bottom line, which scenario is more likely? Both are possible but it is probably going to be one or the other:

SCENARIO 1: Person gets into his car (his prized possession) and decides he is going to drive to a protest site, find a street with liberal protesters on it, and run them over using his car as the weapon with his license plate in full view, being recorded, etc. Then decides after he runs into people, to hightail it out of there.

SCENARIO 2: Person driving his car (his prized possession) and finds himself on narrow streets where people are pelting his car, kicking it, hitting it, blocking the road, floors it to get away to another street where there are even more people doing the same and they start yelling at him and pounding on his car and throwing things at it as he drives down the street...a one way street that he cannot turn off of, I am guessing, and looks up to see a crowd of people blocking the road, waving stuff and looking at him. He jams on his brakes, but his foot hits the accelerator, and he plows into people and a couple of cars stopped by protesters in front of him. His car is surrounded now by angry people on all sides who are likely trying to open the doors or smash the windows while also pounding on the car.

What I am saying is that unless people have proof that this was done intentionally, it is an injustice to treat it as such until facts are know. Even if the guy was a nazi sympathizer or alt-right or extreme-right-winger or anything else the media wants to label any non-liberal with.


122 posted on 08/14/2017 10:50:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: AmericanRobot
Beyond the baseball bat to the tail light there is nothing.

I heard that he was accosted and threaten earlier getting into his car and while leaving where he was parked (no video of this yet). Besides the fact a baseball bat slamming into a car could be misinterpreted for a gunshot (loud banging), the streets were lined with thugs carrying baseball bats, he had to see this.

Reports say police thought he was fleeing for his life, this certainly could be true. Not an act of terrorism.

143 posted on 08/14/2017 11:32:16 AM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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To: AmericanRobot

“Beyond the baseball bat to the tail light there is nothing.”

That is what spooked him, before that he was driving slowly, just as the cars before him.


183 posted on 08/14/2017 9:30:13 PM PDT by heights
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