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Sheriff says- Martins Beach won’t be arrested ... go around gates locked by billionaire...
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/18/sheriff-martins-beach-gate-remains-locked-but-visitors-wont-be ^ | August 19, 2017 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 08/19/2017 9:00:55 AM PDT by ptsal

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To: CodeToad

“His gates should be hauled off since they are on public land.”

They are on his land.


21 posted on 08/19/2017 10:09:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CodeToad

Where are all the anti-government private-property rights posters?


22 posted on 08/19/2017 10:11:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

The sheriff hasn’t removed it because he wants to be able to deny saying it. First question: Who would have beach jurisdiction? The state or the county? Pinnelas County, FL has gorgeous gulf beaches that are County Parks. How does CA operate? The entity with AUTHORITY has to move it. If the sheriff thought HE had it, he’d have already done it; and probably would’ve shot the guy’s dog, too.


23 posted on 08/19/2017 10:13:05 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: factoryrat

I believe ocean front home property lines extend only to the mean high water line - outside of that are the navigable waters of the United States.


24 posted on 08/19/2017 10:14:34 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: TexasGator

I’m right here. When he bought the land he knew it can with covenants with respect to public access to the beach.

Doesn’t seem like you care for the rule of law.


25 posted on 08/19/2017 10:17:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: ptsal
"...the gate remains padlocked with no-trespassing signs." **snip**

Bolt cutters?

26 posted on 08/19/2017 10:18:54 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: TexasGator

It is California law and incorporated into the state constitution. The billionaire-dude is flaunting the law.


27 posted on 08/19/2017 10:20:28 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: factoryrat
If he’s blocking access to public property, then he’s in the wrong.

I learned about public access to the beaches fom an old Rockford Files episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q__tzZEutbM
28 posted on 08/19/2017 10:23:32 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dainbramaged

If that’s the case, then the property owner is in the wrong, and thd beach is open to the public.


29 posted on 08/19/2017 10:28:03 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: CodeToad

“I’m right here. When he bought the land he knew it can with covenants with respect to public access to the beach. Doesn’t seem like you care for the rule of law.”

Please cite the covenants.


30 posted on 08/19/2017 10:33:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ptsal

“It is California law and incorporated into the state constitution.”

Please cite the law and portion of the constitution.


31 posted on 08/19/2017 10:34:00 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: factoryrat

“If that’s the case, then the property owner is in the wrong, and thd beach is open to the public.”

That is not the issue. The issue is whether the public has a right to cross on his private land to get to the beach.


32 posted on 08/19/2017 10:35:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CodeToad

“When he bought the land he knew it can with covenants with respect to public access to the beach.”

Actually, the ‘public’ was paying the previous owner for access.


33 posted on 08/19/2017 10:38:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: factoryrat

The way I understand it the guy does not own the beach he owns the road people want to use/trespass to get to that beach. Does every land owner have to provide access through their property if next to public land?


34 posted on 08/19/2017 10:43:44 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: TexasGator

Didn’t know about that. If there’s no easement or right of way to that beach spelled out in the deed, then the county or state have a problem. Any such access would have been clearly shown in the legal description and land survey.


35 posted on 08/19/2017 10:45:50 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: ptsal

It used to be that the rich were in enclaves in the East coast and they did not impact the regular population. Now I am seeing the rich push their way into areas middle class people used and preventing them access. That is one of the reasons why there is an anti rich sentiment in this country They are thoughtlessly sucking up resources of the middle class.
An example, I am seeing more monster yachts at marinas that cater to smaller boats. They dont care that their one huge boat is taking away space for other people to use, and blocking the view.


36 posted on 08/19/2017 10:52:21 AM PDT by kaila
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To: Jolla

Is the road considered a “public thoroughfare”, meaning that the road is or was built or maintained by the city, county, state, etc. Or is it a private lane on private property and built/maintained by the property owner?

If there’s no easement or right of way there, then the only options are to purchase the right of way, or find another access route on public property.


37 posted on 08/19/2017 10:54:51 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: lewislynn
"Nice try, although you need to work on your attention span on what people actually say"

Yep!

Unfortunately dumbocrat #neverTrump trolls lack the intelligence to understand that concept.

38 posted on 08/19/2017 10:57:38 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ptsal

“This land is your land” sure was catchy but Libtards,elites and government now buy or control all of the best land. One day we will have to live on blimps or a space colony.


39 posted on 08/19/2017 11:02:28 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Reno89519

A lot of these 3rd worlders never leave their vile habits at the border. They think that money makes them above the law.


40 posted on 08/19/2017 11:05:24 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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