Posted on 08/21/2017 12:26:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
U.S., Canadian and Mexican negotiators are pledging to work quickly to update the North American Free Trade Agreement, a 23-year-old pact that President Donald Trump has called the worst trade deal in history.
Wrapping up the first round of NAFTA renegotiation talks Sunday, the three countries said they planned to meet again in Mexico Sept. 1-5, in Canada in late September and back in the United States in October.
They did not offer details on the substance of the five-day talks. …
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America really, really, really needs to be much more aggressive on these trade deals.
For real.
Our trade deficit with China for example, just last year, was:
347 BILLION DOLLARS
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
No details? Really?
I find it hard to believe they couldn’t find anyone to leak the details.
It’s not news....
“Our trade deficit with China for example, just last year, was:
347 BILLION DOLLARS”
And the chinese gave most of those billions back to us by buying our IOUs.
Bottom line, we got a bunch of their stuff in return for “promises to pay”.
I wonder who got the better deal.
Oh, and that money we got back from China, it goes to pay our people to not work (welfare).
So the chinese workers are doing the work and our people who don’t want to work are getting paid. What a deal!
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/investing/china-us-debt-treasuries/index.html
From the list of 45 communist goals for the USA in chapter 12 of The Naked Communist. Why would those be among their goals? Well, the answer lies in the paragraphs that precede the list.
- Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. …
- Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
- Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. …
The biggest mistake of the West has been allowing itself to drift into a state of mental stagnation, apathy and inaction. In some circles, motivations of patriotism, loyalty and the traditional dream of “freedom for all men” have been lying dormant or have been paralyzed by a new kind of strange thinking. Authorities say there is an urgent need for a revolutionary change in our state of mind.And how many of such slogans pervade the airwaves daily? They are nearly inescapable, aren’t they.
What is wrong with our “state of mind?”
First and foremost, we have been thinking the way the communists want us to think. Our founding fathers would be alarmed to learn how confused many of our people have become over such fundamental problems as coexistence, disarmament, free trade, the United Nations, recognition of Red China, and a host of related problems. Instead of maintaining a state of intellectual vigilance, we have taken communist slogans as the major premises for too many of our conclusions. […]
These [communist goals] are all part of the campaign to soften America for the final takeover. It should be kept in mind that many loyal Americans are working for these same objectives because they are not aware that these objectives are designed to destroy us. …
China today is further from communism than we are. They have taken to capitalism with a vengeance and private property, anathema to communism, is flourishing there.
China is second only to the US in number of billionaires and catching up fast.
I would describe China not as communist, but as a single party dictatorship with strong nationalistic interests (like us), and a mostly free market economy.
They, like us, are looking out for their own national interests and as such we should be vigilant.
If there’s a threat of communism and marxism in the US (and there is), it comes mainly from our internal leftists - the enemy within - who have taken over most if not all civic institutions, plus the media, the schools, the military, etc That’s who I fear, not the chinese.
Don’t update it. Just revoke it.
Revoke Obamacare while you’re at it.
Damn, just damn...... A FReeper that sees reality of China !
Rush likes to rant about Chicoms, not realizing the phrase is no longer really applicable as it once was. Chicaps is more pertinent
In China, the Chicaps are ascendant........ especially the young who are taking over from the old men ( and their old wives)
I prefer Chiscists.
No they have not. China is just as communistic as ever, especially socially and nowadays militarily thanks to our “free trade” with them. Calling them “capitalis(tic) with a vengeance” is like calling Lenin’s New Economic Policy such a thing. Don’t dare think there is private property over there either; and all “billionaires” are apparatchiks devoted to using their wealth to building up the dictatorship (even though it could give them power to destroy it once and for all).
China is not looking out for national interests at all. No imperialistic power does; they are ready to sacrifice nation for expansion. They have been all over Africa for decades and have several puppet states there (Zimbabwe, the Congo and now South Africa among them) and thanks to John Kerry’s absurd declaration of the Monroe Doctrine to be “over”, they are looking at South and Central America too—and that is to say nothing of the swathes of property they have been buying on US soil.
I’m sorry you don’t understand the tactics that the communists are using, aimed at bringing down the USA, that I quoted from Skousen’s book. They are not being used by free-market capitalists.
Oh please! Have you been to China?
People in China own every thing we can own, cars, houses, stocks, businesses, flat screen tvs, etc, etc. This is as far from the basic tenets of communism as you can get.
And yes they try to spread their influence wherever they can, watching out for their perceived national self interests, JUST LIKE WE DO.
Nonsequiturs. That does not make them capitalist. It does make them imperialistic though. And their imitators here are just as imperialistic; the Constitutionalists are not.
To own stock in government-approved businesses is not “far from the basic tenets of communism” at all. It certainly isn’t very far from the basic tenets of socialism either. Merely a means to an end. Both Marx and Engels said that transitioning from “capitalism” to communism would not be an instant process, in their writings; how familiar are you with them?
“Nonsequiturs. That does not make them capitalist.”
If they are not capitalists, neither are we.
And how is it a nonsequitur that they are not communists, when the definition of communism is NO PRIVATE PROPERTY, and chineses own private property as much as we do.
“To own stock in government-approved businesses is not “far from the basic tenets of communism” at all.”
Are you really that detached from reality? What do you think american business is if not “government approved”.
Try to go into business without government approval here and see what happens to you.
“Merely a means to an end. Both Marx and Engels said that transitioning from “capitalism” to communism would not be an instant process”
Are you serious?? China has gone the opposite direction from Mao’s communism to capitalism - it is living proof that Marx, Engels and Mao were idiots.
“how familiar are you with them?”
Extremely.
But you’re in desperate need of a red pill, a visit to China may help. It sure helped me see the light 20 years ago when I first visited China when they were just changing over to a free market system, and China is even more capitalistic today - though still a single party dictatorship.
Governmentally and regulatorily, that has been the case for many years. Very few leaders have stood up to the anti-free-market wave within our borders, and our “free trade” with China, as I noted by quoting the Skousen book, is a means to an end to destroy the thinking outlined by our Founding Fathers and turn it towards Marxian thinking, to put these Marxist authoritarian imperialist entities on “equal” footing and eventually in a place of dominion.
If they are not capitalists, neither are we …
…establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. […] Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. […]That is what Red China is doing. That is what the Democratic Party and their RINO cohorts in the USA have been doing. None of those entities are free-market capitalist; they abide by these Marxist principles.
It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once. But one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces. …
Infiltrate and gain control of big business. …None of these would think of betraying the Party line, or using their wealth for political (and thus true economic) freedom.
“BTW, the “Chinese billionaires” are Party members...”
You think Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, the Google boys, Cook, etc, etc are not members of the democrats inner circle?
And I’m sure the Koch brothers are members of the republicans inner circle.
Though the republican billionaires have to be more discreet of their associations lest they incur the wrath of the leftist mobs.
Take your blinders off - wealth and power scratch each other’s back - EVERYWHERE.
Yes, for the purpose aforementioned and written about not only by people such as Skousen but also Goldwater. This is more than merely “billionaires scratching each others’ back”—they have all made their ideology plain to see, and have put their money towards the Marxification of moral society (including the Koch brothers!) and not just the business world. None of what they are about is free-market capitalism under a republican state of affairs, in a society based on religion and morality; they have all worked to undermine that.
We have been warned about this for the better part of a half-century, and calling it its opposite is just plain mendacious, with all due respect.
“Rush likes to rant about Chicoms, not realizing the phrase is no longer really applicable as it once was. Chicaps is more pertinent”
I like Rush a lot, but when it comes to China, I agree, he has blinders on.
State capitalism is part of communism and is against the free market. That is an old tenet and established fact. So Rush is not blind in that respect.
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