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Obama and Clinton Supporters Aim To Halt Trotskyite Takeover Of Democratic Party (tr)
The Hill ^ | August 21, 2017 | by Matt Vespa

Posted on 08/21/2017 1:26:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Right now, the political apparatus of the Democratic Party in rural America have all [but] died out, with a candidate farming system that’s ceased to exist as well. Maximizing your position in the cities is not going to win you elections. You can’t win by just playing with 15% (the percentage of the U.S. population from the 100 biggest cities) of the population.

Maybe not, unless liberals convince states to adopt the National Popular Vote compact scheme to sidestep the Electoral College, which Vespa seemed to be flirting with two weeks ago.

-PJ

21 posted on 08/21/2017 1:51:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Without Trotskyites democrats lose young white college idealists and their hippy parents.

That leaves democrats with Old White Liberal Elites and the black and brown underclass that props them up.

Democrats are going down...


22 posted on 08/21/2017 2:00:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (ISIS & Taliban feel Buddha Statues express hatred toward Islam - therefore they can be destroyed.)
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To: miss marmelstein

A ‘better deal’ was a joke... it was the equivalent of ‘midnight basketball’ for the white working class.

Anyone who’s watched MSNBC knows liberal elites are contemptuous of traditional Americans... any ‘appeal’ made to them by democrats would be a lie - a con...


23 posted on 08/21/2017 2:07:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (ISIS & Taliban feel Buddha Statues express hatred toward Islam - therefore they can be destroyed.)
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To: JohnyBoy

And yet Trotsky has been regarded as a victim of Stalinist terror from when he was icepicked in 1940, even by noncommunists.


24 posted on 08/21/2017 2:09:18 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

>And yet Trotsky has been regarded as a victim of Stalinist terror from when he was icepicked in 1940, even by noncommunists.

He was a victim of it. So? Doesn’t change the fact that with Trotsky left in charge they would have killed until there was no one left to kill in Russia.


25 posted on 08/21/2017 2:12:39 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There will be no real effort to "back pro-life candidates," because, as Weaver notes: "Ideas have consequences." The "idea" of socialism lies at the core of the Democrat Party's cultish and oppressive Progressive ideology; and, for socialism to work, then, population must be restrained. See below:
Please note especially the first paragraph highlighted and quoted below from the Liberty Fund Library "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay, "The Impracticability of Socialism":

Note the writer's emphasis that the "scheme of Socialism" requires what he calls "the power of restraining the increase in population"--long the essential and primary focus of the Democrat Party in the U. S.:

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. The struggle for life provides for the various wants of the human race, in somewhat the same way as the climatic struggle of the elements provides for vegetable and animal life—imperfectly, that is, and in a manner strongly marked by inequalities and anomalies. By taking advantage of prevalent tendencies, it is possible to mitigate these anomalies and inequalities, but all experience shows that it is impossible to do away with them. All history, moreover, is the record of the triumph of Individualism over something which was virtually Socialism or Collectivism, though not called by that name. In early days, and even at this day under archaic civilisations, the note of social life is the absence of freedom. But under every progressive civilisation, freedom has made decisive strides—broadened down, as the poet says, from precedent to precedent. And it has been rightly and naturally so.
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON

26 posted on 08/21/2017 2:19:04 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

translation: We need to tell a more believable lie in red states.


27 posted on 08/21/2017 2:19:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obunga and the Butcher are “moderates”???


28 posted on 08/21/2017 2:19:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Trotskyite”.

That’s leftist dog whistle that the icepicks are going to come out.


29 posted on 08/21/2017 2:30:20 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Repeal 16-17

>>The Democratic Party is now a radical Leftist party. <<

Now???

The democrat (not ic) has been so lefty forever. Need I remind you about that god$mn commie democrat FDR? May he burn in hell forever for how he destroyed the USA.


30 posted on 08/21/2017 2:32:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: Rinnwald

When I first heard “ice pick” I wondered why someone would use the sort of sharp pointed tool used to chip a block of ice. Turns out the Trotsky murder weapon is more like a climber’s tool often called an ice axe. Looks something like an adze or a claw hammer.


31 posted on 08/21/2017 2:39:18 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Thumper1960
Actually, they act more like Maoists.

Yes, quite true. And Hillary and 0bama are the Trotskyites. Or one can only hope.

"Hey, what's the gardener doing with that ice pick?"

32 posted on 08/21/2017 2:42:12 PM PDT by henkster (Ask your favorite liberal to take the "Snowflake Challenge.")
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To: JohnyBoy
So? Doesn’t change the fact that with Trotsky left in charge they would have killed until there was no one left to kill in Russia.

I think the line from "Ninotchka" is "The last mass trials were a great success. There are going to be fewer but better Russians."

33 posted on 08/21/2017 2:46:01 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Redleg Duke

When your comepetion is destroying itself, stay out of it.


34 posted on 08/21/2017 3:11:25 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thank President Trump for making the democrat party grate again.


35 posted on 08/21/2017 3:15:25 PM PDT by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Trotskyites? Like the Kristol family?

The Kristols aren't Trotskyites (not anymore anyway), and Sanders may not be either.

36 posted on 08/21/2017 3:20:53 PM PDT by x
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hillary and Obama versus Warren and Sanders, it is replay of history! The Stalinists versus Trotskyites-the takeover of all institutions by their followers in 10 years versus 1 year. The results are the same.


37 posted on 08/21/2017 3:38:38 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Windflier

Trust the Rats to insist on the use of poor grammar.


38 posted on 08/21/2017 4:23:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Thumper1960

Exactly, the most vocal ones are Maoists.


39 posted on 08/21/2017 4:45:06 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: henkster

Hildabeast is more a Fabian socialist, 0bama is not cerebral enough to be pinned to one faction.


40 posted on 08/21/2017 4:53:01 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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