Posted on 08/22/2017 4:47:18 AM PDT by Zakeet
LOL, having been aboard a ship involved in a major collision mere months before I boarded her (USS Belknap) and being on a collision with another vessel just months after I boarded her (USS Bordelon) I have seen with my own eyes it isn’t as uncommon as people might think.
This is a subject of special interest to me, as a result.
The picture at the top of the linked article is a most fascinating one, known as the “Honda Point Disaster” where one destroyer led a group of fourteen (I think) in heavy fog off Honda Point in California, and the lead ship ran aground on rocks, immediately followed by six other destroyers, all seven were lost (the ones that disobeyed orders and did not follow survived)
A lot of careers foundered on the rocks that day.
LOL...who knew???
Wow. Every day I learn something from my fellow Freepers.
You didn’t.
The other thing I learned in the Navy is that military planes crash a lot. More than the general population knows.
It happens.
I gave that a lot of thought over the years, and realized that, back then, unless the plane crashed into an apartment building or heavily populated area, if you didn’t live in the area the ship or squadron was based out of, you might never hear of it.
I saw, with my own eyes, in one four year stint, an F-14 crash, F-8 crash, an A-6 crash, and an SH-3 crash. With my own eyes. We also lost several other planes that I didnt’ see. And that was naval operations only, on one ship environment. Think of all the Air Force, Army, Marine, and Coast Guard aerial mishaps in units all over the world, 24x7.
Of course, nowadays, we see and hear more about this due to the Internet.
Well, you mean if I accept as fact they were hacked without any evidence at all...yes.
I don’t know that.
Who’s saying they’re hacked? I’m saying there are US Navy personnel that are, somehow, driving ships into the path of other ocean going vessels. You are saying that it is probably glitches in the our software, relying upon your vast professional IT experience.
Eyeballs can’t be hacked. This is gross incompetence. Liberal policies at work.
I was using g Google as an example.. trust me, there are higher tech firms than that. Total reliance on technology means total vulnerability to technology and something here is fishy. Too many deaths.
In the Bible people laugh at the backward seeming armeggedon. They think we are past that warfare. Our new tech will produce that warfare, because it is clearly failing.
It is also producing a generation of desk warriors. People who can’t get in the dirt, navigate and fight bare fisted.
Weakness, pure and simple.
The bridge recording sounded like confusion and that the OOD didn’t understand what he was being told. At the end of the recording he reports the the captain of a hit “on the port side”. I’m no seaman, but the picture sure looks like it’s the starbord side. Isn’t port the left side?
Isn’t port the left side? Yup.. missed that reference on the tape
Sorry, I was not saying that at all, though in retrospect I can see how you might take it that way. My fault.
I was using that fictional dialogue to show that electronic logs are being written that are used for problem diagnosis and troubleshooting, and that that presence of those logs is going to display in the details whether there was a “hack” or not.
My stand from day one is that there are no hacks or glitches in the software, but that it is poor seamanship.
I apologize, I can see how you might think I said that, which was not my intent to convey!
How was it done? The ocean is a big place yet we are suppose to think someone using a wireless signal ‘hacked’ into some steering gear controller thru all the steel and aluminum? Maybe a Chines/Russian stowaway!
Just an excuse as described above by some dog!
The sailors failed in their job and their crewmates died as a result.
I was assigned to the NMCC in the mid 80s. It was a rare day that we didn’t get a report of a loss of aircraft, man lost at sea, or someone killed in a training accident. I was amazed at routine it was to lose personnel and other valuable assets. I don’t know if that’s still the norm, but you are right about the public not knowing about it. Nearly all of the ones I saw reported never appeared in the news. It took a special and spectacular event to get notice.
#31 https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/18199714/thumb/1.jpg?i10c=img.resize(height:160)
Heck even when they tip over they are lit up.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/04/2469B9BA00000578-2895837-image-a-15_1420393145581.jpg
Really??? I think for a small consulting fee, I can ‘fix’ the collision problem. :-)
Yes...it is an odd thing. You know exactly what I mean!
Yeah, someone’s hacked a bit piece out of the side of that ship.
thx, and yeah, lite up like a Christmas tree, absolutely no excuse go letting one of the sneak up on you. And hey are noisy too!
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