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Australia same-sex marriage vote: PM comes out for Yes
BBC News ^ | 10th September 2017 | BBC News

Posted on 09/10/2017 7:17:34 AM PDT by Ennis85

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To: Dilbert San Diego

What changed was that the courts took over deciding who gets a religious rite and that people practicing that religion have to change it at the courts’ order or be politically and socially persecuted

That’s kind of a BFD


21 posted on 09/10/2017 8:01:49 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m for live and let live, I’m ex-religious activist turned libertarian.

But the most important liberties are right there in the Constitution.

Gay marriage supporters attack the First Amendment relentlessly by destroying people who oppose them, trying to silence religious people.

They assault freedom of speech and religion and I have to defend people I might not agree with 100 percent.


22 posted on 09/10/2017 8:05:27 AM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business, Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Nextrush

The State has not been satisfied to simply make up its own secular civil institution of “ marriage” ie civil unions, with all the same legal treatment as church marriage
Nope
The churches must bow to Caesar or be punished
Thats a BFD


23 posted on 09/10/2017 8:05:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Nextrush

Faggies are anything but live and let live.


24 posted on 09/10/2017 8:19:53 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"And when did it become cool to be gay?"

Yeah, I don't get it either. I don't get how many people are for homosexuality. For me, just the thought of a woman kissing a woman or a man kissing a man totally GROSSES me out! I'm not "afraid" of homos, I am just disgusted by them.

25 posted on 09/10/2017 8:23:10 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Ennis85

Sick and blasphemous.


26 posted on 09/10/2017 8:24:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: jackibutterfly

Yep, I’m not afraid either. I’m not wanting to see their expressions of affection and all that. But not afraid as such.

I don’t get this talk of “homophobia”. A phobia is a fear of something. I don’t fear homosexuals. I just oppose the homosexual social/political agenda.


27 posted on 09/10/2017 8:28:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"I don’t get this talk of “homophobia”. A phobia is a fear of something."

Not just a fear:

Phobia: an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something

I think the word should be: homorevulsion. :-)

28 posted on 09/10/2017 10:29:05 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Dilbert San Diego
See what happens to any prominent public figure in this day and age, who would stand for traditional marriage. It doesn’t happen.

As it happens, quite a few members of the conservative coalition parties (Liberal and National Parties) in Australia are doing just that. So a few members of the socialist Labor party. They are being attacked in some quarters but it's reasonably restrained at present - and the people who are attacking them don't like them anyway.

29 posted on 09/10/2017 7:00:55 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Ennis85
Australian rules.
30 posted on 09/10/2017 7:12:37 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Nextrush
You are insulting Mitt Romney and John McCain, who may weakly conservative but are not actually corrupt.

Turnbull is a Hillary

31 posted on 09/10/2017 7:55:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I take your point.

Tony Abbott was a better leader than Turnbull but the backdoor intrigues of Australian politics have been legion in recent years.

If the poll numbers go down the back room kicks the leader out.


32 posted on 09/10/2017 8:25:01 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business, Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: SandRat

This is the 22nd attempt since 2004 to get legislation through the Australian Parliament to enact same sex marriage. The last 21 attempts have failed.

This time, there’s a good chance it will succeed. If it doesn’t, they simply will not take no for an answer. And that’s part of the problem. This is the debate that never ends. It’s never allowed to until they get what they want.

This also may be the last time that there will be any protection for churches included - that will allow Ministers to refuse to be involved.


33 posted on 09/10/2017 8:32:26 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Ennis85

You’ve got to know this is going to be the most corrupt ballot measure in modern history. The Gaystapo has no scruples whatsoever.


34 posted on 09/11/2017 12:33:54 PM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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Is Malcolm Turnbull homosexual?

Rule One: NO POOFTERS!

35 posted on 09/11/2017 12:34:33 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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And I thought Australia was a safe & sane place.

It's a leftist nanny-state. Sort of like California or New York ... except that you can't get away from it as easily.

36 posted on 09/11/2017 12:36:15 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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And I thought Australia was a safe & sane place.

Those are exactly the kinds of places that the demonic left love to attack.

37 posted on 09/11/2017 12:36:46 PM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: naturalman1975
This is the debate that never ends. It’s never allowed to until they get what they want.

They have been reading Alinsky. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. They don't give a rat's behind about sodomite "marriage" per se. They're trying to overturn civilization.

38 posted on 09/11/2017 12:43:26 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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