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Tom Sommers chose to depend on bear spray. He lost.
1 posted on 09/14/2017 4:22:05 PM PDT by marktwain
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.44 Mag bear spray? S&W .500 bear spray?


2 posted on 09/14/2017 4:24:02 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Bear spray is such a joke. It reminds me of sanctions on North Korea.


3 posted on 09/14/2017 4:24:27 PM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
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He shot bear with pepper spray at 2 ft and it ran off??


4 posted on 09/14/2017 4:24:57 PM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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Real bear spray or that little stuff you get at Walmart?


6 posted on 09/14/2017 4:28:09 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Notice How Our Symbol Of America Is Brown And White?)
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Around 1982 I used some government issued pepper spray against a doberman which was about to eat me alive. It was one tenth of one percent. That used for bears today is around 100 times stronger than that old stuff.

It stopped him like he was poleaxed. I have no doubt that pepper spray would be effective just about every time.

That is assuming that you actually hit him in the nose/eyes. Of course with a 500 S&W you also have to hit him.


8 posted on 09/14/2017 4:36:00 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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I went to school with a kid named Tom Sommers.


9 posted on 09/14/2017 4:39:24 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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If you are ten yards away from a grizzly and you don’t already have the sights on him, I’m not sure there’s much you can do.


10 posted on 09/14/2017 4:40:22 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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They are around up here and you NEVER know for sure just how they are gonna react if you come up on one by surprise.....or if they come up on you by surprise!


11 posted on 09/14/2017 4:41:55 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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Bear spray is usually quite effective if the bear has not yet committed to an attack profile. Once it has, it will run right through a cloud of the stuff to reach the target. If it’s stalking, following, or only curious, hose it down, or if it isn’t in range, hose down the ground it has to cross. If it’s decided to charge, go big or get eaten.


13 posted on 09/14/2017 4:44:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Lighter than a gun; requires less training; no risk of an accidental, fatal shooting; and no real skill required for use.

While technically correct (and I recognize you are quoting someone else - it's not your statement), I suspect many people have been deceived by this statement. Bear spray requires less training, not no training - less skill, not no skill.

When my daughters moved out, I bought each of them defensive pepper spray. They each used the same spray multiple times, going through a full Sabre before leaving home and another full one over the course of the next year (and not using the one they actually carried). That's a whole lot less training that the well over 1,000 rounds each of my kids had with a firearm, but it's also a whole lot more training than most people with pepper spray or with bear spray ever get.

Bear spray is expensive, but I'd rather buy two than have to read (or even think about) the instructions before using it in an emergency. I have come very close to using it twice. Each time, I was relieved when the situation resolved to realize that I knew what to do. Each time (probably not coincidence), I was downwind of the bear so I would have been spraying into the wind. I suspect the mamma and cub brown bears would have run away if they had smelled me; the Grizzly I don't know about, but he moved off slowly just before getting too close. Also, when traveling with bear spray, if I don't have a close friend to give it to, I use it before flying home - training.

14 posted on 09/14/2017 4:44:36 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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A little putty and he’ll be fine...


15 posted on 09/14/2017 4:45:25 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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If there are Grizz about then it’s best to rely on 50BMG..... twin 50Bmg.

Ma Deuce. Accept no substitute.


19 posted on 09/14/2017 4:55:45 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Maybe the bear was exhaling through the cloud.


21 posted on 09/14/2017 4:58:03 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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I was duly warned not to look at the photo, but I did anyway, and now I'm sorry I did.   I hope the guy bears up well under the ordeal, and heals quickly, and that his brains don't fall out.

I like to post songs on threads in an effort to try to match the general subject of the thread with a song that could be seen as related to the subject in some way (sort of like thread background music).   For this thread, I have to admit that this song is a tasteless match, and I apologize in advance for it, but I'm going to post it anyway.   Here's the song:

       "I'm Happy I Live In A Split Level Head"


22 posted on 09/14/2017 4:58:48 PM PDT by Songcraft
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Real men use a knoife...


23 posted on 09/14/2017 5:03:45 PM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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A little trivia.

According to Outdoor Life, (and I have seen it a couple of other places since), more people in North America are killed by Black Bears than Grizzlies or Brown Bears.


26 posted on 09/14/2017 5:13:09 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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S&W 686 7 rd - 4” barrel

200 gr. hard cast ammo

Because I can get the .357 back on target for multiple shots.


28 posted on 09/14/2017 5:15:53 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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I don’t have to be able to out run the bear...


29 posted on 09/14/2017 5:18:26 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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Did I read somewhere on FR, that when a bear was attacking a man, the guy used his fingers to gouge the bear’s eyes -— and the bear backed off?


30 posted on 09/14/2017 5:19:12 PM PDT by Exit148 ((Loose Chnge Club founder) Put yours aside for the next Freepathon!)
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I did an internship at a zoo once. The bears claws on the forelegs may be the inspiration for Freddy Krueger. We had to dart the bears and make sure they were out before we did anything. Even the cubs were dangerous. One swat from those claws and one might find himself at the door to the Pearly Gates.
34 posted on 09/14/2017 5:28:48 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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