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China Shames California into Adopting Its Own Ban on Combustion-Engine Cars
www.autoevolution.com ^ | 26 Sep 2017, 13:55 UTC | Vlad Mitrache

Posted on 09/26/2017 1:23:38 PM PDT by Red Badger

The list of countries that have either announced a ban on fossil fuel-burning cars or are thinking about instituting one is growing each week, and it may be about to receive another high-profile name.

It all started with France whose shock decision to ban the sale of gasoline and diesel cars within its borders starting 2040 took everyone by surprise. That happened less than three months ago, and in the meantime, the United Kingdom has joined the camp, with further reinforcement of the idea coming from Scotland as well.

More recently, with just one day left until the start of the Frankfurt Motor Show, China announced it too was taking into consideration a similar act. The conditions aren't clear yet nor is whether the authorities would go ahead with it, but considering China's booming EV business, it wouldn't be a surprise if they did.

China is currently the world's largest car market, which means any changes there would have a dramatic impact on the whole industry. With over two million passenger cars registered during last year, the U.S. state of California is a major player as well, accounting for more sales than France or Italy, for example.

The Golden State is a well-known advocate of clean mobility, and it shouldn't surprise anyone if it were the first U.S. jurisdiction to act drastically on curbing pollution coming from passenger cars. And according to Mary Nichols, chairman of the California Air Resources Board, that's precisely what Governor Jerry Brown might do.

"I've gotten messages from the governor asking, 'Why haven't we done something already?'" Nichols said in an interview with Bloomberg, referring to the China decision. "The governor has certainly indicated an interest in why China can do this and not California."

"To reach the ambitious levels of reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, we have to pretty much replace all combustion with some form of renewable energy by 2040 or 2050," she continued. "We're looking at that as a method of moving this discussion forward."

That information provides us with an approximate time frame as well, and it seems to match those proposed by France and all the other countries so far. And even though California is not a sovereign entity, it still has plenty of means to enforce the ban if it gets the go-ahead.

Every passing day makes it sound as though the noose is tightening around the internal combustion engine's neck. It may get a rather long period of agony, but its fate could be sealed over the coming years if more governments adhere to these bans.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: fakescience
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To: Brian Griffin

Most of Europe is like that, everything within walking distance............


41 posted on 09/26/2017 2:09:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: blueunicorn6

Ultimately, these electric cars will be fueled by coal.


42 posted on 09/26/2017 2:10:32 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Red Badger

This will only raise the cost of used Combustion-Engine Cars available in other states to buy, As ususal CA is a Donkey Butt.


43 posted on 09/26/2017 2:14:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Edison

“They already have issues on hot days with the rolling brown-outs. Imagine if you had to charge 2 millions cars at the same time.”

France generally has a very temperate climate.

Hot days are rather rare in most of France, so when they occur the system can’t cope.

The cars could be recharged during the evening and night.

The French have long wanted to wean themselves off oil because of balance of trade issues.

Big personal motor vehicles are rare in Europe. Millionaire Brits normally drive small cars.


44 posted on 09/26/2017 2:16:45 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SandRat

Nobody wants California used cars...................


45 posted on 09/26/2017 2:17:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: tomkat

China/California .. who can tell the difference these days ? !
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Look at the eyes.


46 posted on 09/26/2017 2:18:29 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: ColdOne

Is it true Caltrans doesn’t fix roads anymore dragnet2?
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They put up “Rough Road” and “Pothole” signs, sometimes.


47 posted on 09/26/2017 2:20:24 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: eyeamok
"Where are these people going to get all that electricity?"

I've long thought we should be building lots of nuclear plants and preparing even more sites and hoarding nuclear fuel.

I think the bigger problem is still with the battery technology and how do you keep that cost effective and without pollution. It's not ripe yet, but it's getting there.

48 posted on 09/26/2017 2:20:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Scrambler Bob

With so many HALF BREEDS Who can tell?


49 posted on 09/26/2017 2:21:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Red Badger

“ban the sale of gasoline and diesel cars”

We tried to limit the sale of large cars.

Many Americans now drive what are officially considered light trucks.


50 posted on 09/26/2017 2:25:03 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger

Wouldn’t China stand to BANK from these laws because of their supply of lithium?


51 posted on 09/26/2017 2:27:50 PM PDT by VinnieCCT
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To: VinnieCCT

Certainly!..................


52 posted on 09/26/2017 2:29:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: JMS

Depends on how they do it. They probably couldn’t ban cars from the road or gas stations. But they could ban the sale of gasoline cars. They’ve already done that in principle, in the past by requiring higher emmission standards than federal on cars sold in California.


53 posted on 09/26/2017 2:34:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JMS

Depends on how they do it. They probably couldn’t ban cars from the road or gas stations. But they could ban the sale of gasoline cars. They’ve already done that in principle, in the past by requiring higher emmission standards than federal on cars sold in California.


54 posted on 09/26/2017 2:44:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Red Badger

No...they shut down all but one lane of a road, road diets is what they call it. I mean busy roads too. Sunset is one they shut down.


55 posted on 09/26/2017 2:50:13 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

What is orange and sleeps 6? Caltrans vehicle.


56 posted on 09/26/2017 2:52:15 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: ColdOne

What goofy purpose does that serve?...................


57 posted on 09/26/2017 2:52:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

It is kali run by Jerry Brown, they want the unwashed masses to use bikes, buses or walk. No more cars on the roads, unless it is their limos.


58 posted on 09/26/2017 2:57:17 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Red Badger

http://www.dailynews.com/2017/09/19/dangerous-road-diets-are-starving-la-of-common-sense-susan-shelley/


59 posted on 09/26/2017 2:59:41 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Red Badger

If you were a country like France (or a state like California) in a second-rate position in an economic field, you want to try a change of the rules and you would insist that others changes their rules to favor yourself.

French leaders may generally be arrogant, but they are not generally fools.


60 posted on 09/26/2017 3:03:40 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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