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Australian gun advocates raise $21K to help farmer in self-defense fight
Guns.com ^ | 10/18/17 | Andrew Shepperson

Posted on 10/19/2017 8:34:55 PM PDT by Simon Green

Australian gun rights advocates have raised $21,000 to help a farmer get back his firearms and gun license, which were taken after after he used an unloaded gun to protect his family against a knife-wielding trespasser.

David Dunstan encountered the trespasser, who was armed with a knife and wooden club, at the back door of his Riverine property in the eastern state of New South Wales last month, according to a GoFundMe page set up to raise money for the farmer. Dunstan then grabbed his unloaded .22-caliber rifle and was able to ward off the man and convince him to sit in his car as Dunstan’s wife called the police.

Officers then came to Dunstan’s property and arrested the man in the driveway. However, police also returned later that day to confiscate the farmer’s firearms and gun license.

So far no charges have been pressed against Dunstan, but his firearms and license have not been returned, the Herald Sun reported. To date, the GoFundMe page has raised $21,000 to help the farmer legally fight for the return of his guns and license.

“I am amazed by the support. So many people are concerned about what right they have got and self-defense,” Dunstan told the Herald Sun.

“I just look at it as a waste of taxpayers money because every case is different and this is a totally different situation to people not using their guns correctly,” he continued. “Sometimes you just need a bit of common sense.”

Combined Firearms Council Victoria chairman Bill Paterson said the gun rights community had rallied behind the farmer because many think he did nothing wrong. He noted that police have not told him exactly why his firearms and license were confiscated.

According to the New South Wales Firearms Legislation (Amendment) Act 1992, gun owners are required to cite a “genuine reason” for possessing firearms, and personal protection is not considered a “genuine reason” in the state.

Now with this incident, it appears even lawfully owned guns cannot be used in self-defense, as Dunstan was a licensed firearms owner. Such a slippery slope has Paterson and other gun rights advocates seriously concerned.

“When you understand the situation it seems over the top,” Paterson said. “From a civil liberties point of view it is pretty horrendous that a man who relies on his guns can have this happen.”


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 10/19/2017 8:34:55 PM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Guns are Personal protection...

First and Foremost!


2 posted on 10/19/2017 8:39:13 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Simon Green

Australia still has a hardcore of Marxists, Marxist politicians and idiots. This case is proof of that. Time for a “’RO REVOLUTION” down-under.


3 posted on 10/19/2017 8:42:25 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Simon Green

Australians = chattel.


4 posted on 10/19/2017 8:49:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Seruzawa

Well, Australia has had millions of sheep for quite a while...


5 posted on 10/19/2017 8:56:29 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Simon Green

BTTT


6 posted on 10/19/2017 9:32:22 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Simon Green

[[which were taken after after he used an unloaded gun to protect his family against a knife-wielding trespasser.]]

What the heck? Would the Australian gov have preferred he be killed by the knife wielding assailant?

[[gun owners are required to cite a “genuine reason” for possessing firearms, and personal protection is not considered a “genuine reason” in the state.]]

Ah- ok- Australia sucks


7 posted on 10/19/2017 9:59:01 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

or i should say the Aussie government sucks


8 posted on 10/19/2017 9:59:28 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Simon Green

People in countries like this need to learn to quit calling the cops and start learning how to dispose of bodies.


9 posted on 10/19/2017 10:15:37 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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People in countries like this need to learn to quit calling the cops and start learning how to dispose of bodies.

Indeed. "Call the cops", they say, and they screw around with you? Yes, people thereabouts will take lessons from what happened there. Shoot, shovel, shut up.

10 posted on 10/19/2017 11:15:13 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

It’s not like they’re going to be whacking someone in the public eye and/or beloved by the community. Heck, the authorities probably wouldn’t notice until a trend started of repeat offenders not showing up at the jail anymore. And it’s Australia to boot, things er poisonous there mate! ;-)


11 posted on 10/19/2017 11:47:12 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith
People in countries like this need to learn to quit calling the cops and start learning how to dispose of bodies.

Yep, around here you just back a wood chipper up to a cat fish pond. Pro tip: Freeze the body first and its easier to clean.

Maybe there is a reason these guys are so big?


12 posted on 10/20/2017 5:07:08 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Simon Green

The American “gun grabbers” wet dream. They dream of the day that all Americans will be left defenseless and unable to harm criminals that are there to harm them. After all, most crime is not done by law abiding people...only human trash that never obeyed a law, direction or rule in their lives and have never been punished for doing so.


13 posted on 10/20/2017 5:33:13 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DCBryan1

Picture of an Australian garbage disposal.


14 posted on 10/20/2017 6:20:03 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Bob434
Would the Australian gov have preferred he be killed by the knife wielding assailant?

I think the short answer is Yes. Leftists really believe that is the moral choice.

15 posted on 10/20/2017 6:24:39 AM PDT by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: Simon Green
According to the New South Wales Firearms Legislation (Amendment) Act 1992, gun owners are required to cite a “genuine reason” for possessing firearms, and personal protection is not considered a “genuine reason” in the state.

And that is the mindset that leads to gun confiscation. American liberals feel the same way about self-defense.

16 posted on 10/20/2017 6:25:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Simon Green

I think the get a number of details wrong in this story.

Dunstan lives in Victoria, not New South Wales (his farm is near the border).

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/09/australian-gun-culture-part-26-guns.html


17 posted on 10/20/2017 7:35:13 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Everything I’ve seen about this says he lives in Bungowannah, which is in New South Wales - only just but definitely in New South Wales.

It matters because I think he’d be better off if he lived in Victoria - NSW Police take a harder line on the rules concerning firearms storage than Victoria does (his wife knowing where the key was is a potential problem in New South Wales - it wouldn’t be in Victoria).

I’m pretty sure he’ll get his firearms back and keep his licence in the end - it’s just likely to take two or three years for the court process to be followed. That’s one of the biggest problems here - even when the law is on your side, it takes way too long to get a decision. Local police should be allowed to exercise common sense on this, rather than have to take it to court.


18 posted on 10/20/2017 3:38:19 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Early reporting errors, I guess.

Might actually be better for him in New South Wales, if the case goes into November.

In November, the NSW law is reformed to allow the police to exercise judgment in cases involving “safe storage”.


19 posted on 10/20/2017 5:02:05 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

That’s good. I find that is when the laws actually work reasonably well here - not that I like them but we have to live with them - when police are allowed to exercise their own commonsense and judgement, most of the time, they seem to get it right. We get real problems when they have no choice but to follow procedures that aren’t designed to be flexible.


20 posted on 10/20/2017 6:00:53 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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