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Two NYPD cops charged with raping an 18-year-old in police custody
Wahington Examiner ^ | Oct 28, 2017 | Gabby Morrongiello |

Posted on 10/31/2017 4:05:18 PM PDT by Ken H

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To: ETL

So if a cop has an 18 year old under arrest and offers to release her on the condition she have sex with him and she agrees, would you consider that consensual?


101 posted on 11/01/2017 2:42:51 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Ken H
So if a cop has an 18 year old under arrest and offers to release her on the condition she have sex with him and she agrees, would you consider that consensual?

An agreement like that would have been just one potential reason. As I wrote earlier, she could have simply had a thing for cops, as lots of women do.

Or, as someone above suggested, she could have freely offered with the intention of later claiming rape and then suing for big bucks.

Legally, the 18-year-old status doesn't enter into it, although, IMO, and I'm sure many others', 18-yos are very much still naive kids.

102 posted on 11/01/2017 2:55:21 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

So would you consider it consensual sex in the scenario I described in my previous post, yes or no?


103 posted on 11/01/2017 3:01:05 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: trebb

Fifty count indictment! More details =>

Detectives Hit with 50-Count Indictment for Raping Teen in NYPD Van: DA

Plainclothes Detectives Eddie Martins, 37, and Richard Hall, 32, who were suspended from duty Friday, were charged with first-degree rape, second degree kidnapping, receiving a bribe, official misconduct, and other related charges, prosecutors said.

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20171030/gravesend/nypd-rape-detectives-indictment-coney-island


104 posted on 11/01/2017 3:11:19 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Ken H

Good - hanging the dirty cops by their balls is one of the best ways to clean it up and instill a sense of trust in the community.


105 posted on 11/01/2017 3:22:54 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Ken H
So if a cop has an 18 year old under arrest and offers to release her on the condition she have sex with him and she agrees, would you consider that consensual?

Of course it would be consensual. *IF* your scenario was true, she still had a choice.

Definition of consensual:

1 - existing or made by mutual consent without an act of writing

a consensual contract

2 - involving or based on mutual consent

consensual acts

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensual
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Definition of consent:

1 - to give assent or approval, agree

consent to being tested

Her father consented to the marriage.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consent
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“The New York Age of Consent is 17 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity.

Individuals aged 16 or younger in New York are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape.”

https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/new-york

106 posted on 11/01/2017 5:37:04 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL
Given the hundreds of thousands of laws and regulations those of us not a part of the ruling class are subject to, it is absolutely astounding that there is any way that a person who is arrested or detained could ever consent under any circumstances. Just another example of the difference between those with power and those without.
107 posted on 11/01/2017 8:46:42 AM PDT by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: ETL

Photos online don’t mean she wanted to have nasty sex with two cops in a police van.


108 posted on 11/01/2017 8:57:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ETL

So, if a schoolteacher were propositioned by an 18 year old student you’d be fine with that too?


109 posted on 11/01/2017 9:10:27 AM PDT by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: Ken H

Wasn’t this an episode of Law & Order SVU, or an old Hill Street Blues or NYPD Blue? Sounds awfully familiar!


110 posted on 11/01/2017 3:26:35 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ETL
The idea would be, I imagine, is that she would soon be "un-arrested" afterwards, if such a thing is possible. Undo an arrest.

At that point she may have only been "detained".

111 posted on 11/01/2017 3:29:26 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Pirate Ragnar
Right out of the ANIFA dictionary. Do you need a haircut?

So, you're OK with rape, gang rape and rape on duty?

112 posted on 11/01/2017 4:22:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: zeugma
So, if a schoolteacher were propositioned by an 18 year old student you’d be fine with that too?

Who the heck said I was 'fine' with what the cops did, regardless of how it transpired? I was addressing the legal vs illegal angle of it. And, as I've shown many times above through repeated posts, but apparently few if any responders are bothering to read it, IF she willingly engaged in sex with them, ie, had consented to sex, it would NOT be a crime, according to the stupid current law. It would be against police policy and it would merely be considered an act of "misconduct". Please go back and read one of my several repeated posts regarding the current law on this.

113 posted on 11/01/2017 10:16:42 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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