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Libertarians brush off concerns they'll play 'spoiler' in Virginia governor's race
Washington Examiner ^ | Nov. 6, 2017

Posted on 11/06/2017 1:59:06 PM PST by deplorableindc

Virginia’s campaign for governor ends Tuesday with polling suggesting a tight contest between Republican Ed Gillespie and Democrat Ralph Northam, leaving Libertarians yet again a potentially influential factor.

Libertarian Cliff Hyra, a patent attorney, is unlikely to win a large share of the vote, with polls suggesting 3 percent at most, but it’s a clear possibility he will take more votes than the race's margin of victory.

The third party’s leaders say that doesn’t matter, and that Hyra’s individual-rights platform is worth supporting regardless of electoral consequences — not a new argument for Libertarians, twice accused of contributing to recent Republican defeats in Virginia.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: liberaltarians; libertarians; thirdparty; virginia
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1 posted on 11/06/2017 1:59:06 PM PST by deplorableindc
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To: deplorableindc

Getting liberal democrats elected to office is pretty much the only thing libertaraians can do with any regularity.


2 posted on 11/06/2017 2:03:09 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: deplorableindc

Exactly what they have done more than a few times in CO. They have helped turn us purple.


3 posted on 11/06/2017 2:04:18 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: deplorableindc

I confess I was a registered Libertarian for 35 years. I noticed a clear pattern. Voting for Libertarian candidates elected Democrats.

I saw it over and over and over. It took me a while, but I finally learned.

The Libertarians deny this, of course. They stick to the fantasy that they hurt both sides equally.

That is a lie.


4 posted on 11/06/2017 2:05:01 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: deplorableindc
"Cliff Hyra’s individual-rights platform is worth supporting regardless of electoral consequences"

If the Democrat wins this race there won't be any individual rights for anyone. Cliff Hyra is like all of the other Libertarian Candidates; stupid and selfish.

5 posted on 11/06/2017 2:05:50 PM PST by wmileo
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To: deplorableindc

On the other hand, if the GOP wants libertarian votes, maybe they need to offer them more than they have been. Pretty much our approach seems to be, “vote for the us because the dems are worse, but we will do nothing special to earn your vote, AND we don’t really care about anything you care about anyway.”

With that mentality, expect them to run their own guy again and again.


6 posted on 11/06/2017 2:07:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: wmileo
Cliff Hyra is like all of the other Libertarian Candidates; stupid and selfish.

And aloof and pompous
7 posted on 11/06/2017 2:08:52 PM PST by uncbob
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To: wmileo

“If the Democrat wins this race there won’t be any individual rights for anyone.”

It would be helpful if the GOP was easily identifiable as different. The GOP isn’t real big on the rights of the individual either.


8 posted on 11/06/2017 2:09:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: deplorableindc

If you’re a Libertarian, why wouldn’t you vote for Gillespie? . . duh. . Throw away your vote? Oh yeah, you’ll ‘feel better’ voting for Hyra. Look at the big picture here, it’s communism or America and all that it stands for. It’s your call.


9 posted on 11/06/2017 2:10:54 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: DesertRhino

Agreed, and it it wasn’t for the threat of possible constitutionally minded spoilers the GOP would be worse than it is now.


10 posted on 11/06/2017 2:11:33 PM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: JohnBrowdie

It can’t happen —NO! This is why I no longer favor legalization of pot; etc. Look how weird and idiotic the Libertarians are. Is it a result of all the drugs they take?


11 posted on 11/06/2017 2:12:26 PM PST by Stepan12 (It is Civll War right now..)
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To: deplorableindc

Bump for a GOP sweep tomorrow including growing the majority in the House of Delegates.


12 posted on 11/06/2017 2:13:27 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Manuel OKelley

THE problem with them is they criticize both parties EQUALLY even though they are more in tune with us. They cost the Dakotas and Montana their Senate seats in the past. Hopefully no more.


13 posted on 11/06/2017 2:14:15 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Manuel OKelley

http://cliffhyra.com/index.php/issues/

I looked through his stated positions. I’m not in 100% with him on some environmental things, but good lord, look down this list of licenses, taxes and Virginia traffic enforcement petty over-reach that he wants fully repealed. Look at his education and healthcare positions.
Look at the nutty Virginia liquor laws he wants ended.

If the GOP looks at his list of positions and cannot find a way to have common cause with him, that tells us more about the Virginia GOP than it does the Libertarian.


14 posted on 11/06/2017 2:19:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: MileHi

Which is why the Democrat Party throws money at them.


15 posted on 11/06/2017 2:24:03 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

‘They cost the Dakotas and Montana their Senate seats in the past. Hopefully no more.’

yes, and in 2012 when Romney was the GOP candidate, how many freepers came on here prattling about voting third party, and party politics be damned...?


16 posted on 11/06/2017 2:39:56 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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Which is why the Democrat Party throws money at them.

Spot on.

17 posted on 11/06/2017 2:51:33 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: deplorableindc

I’ve been on record before predicting VA elections much closer in the right direction than pollsters say and was right. I think Gillespie wins tomorrow.


18 posted on 11/06/2017 3:00:42 PM PST by MountainWalker
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I certainly hope you are right! But my understanding of Virginia is the Northern part of the State sinks the vote elsewhere. Just not sure about turnout tomorrow...


19 posted on 11/06/2017 3:37:50 PM PST by donozark (JAMES COMEY:Democrat Presidential nominee in 2020.)
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To: deplorableindc

Libertarians don’t give a flip what happens to the election. They can’t win so would rather watch everyone lose


20 posted on 11/06/2017 3:44:30 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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