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GOP rep: Virginia defeat 'a referendum' on Trump administration
The (S)Hill ^ | 11/7/17 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 11/08/2017 4:20:00 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

....“I don’t know how you get around that this wasn’t a referendum on the administration, I just don’t," Taylor told reporters at Gillespie's election night party. "Some of the very divisive rhetoric really prompted and helped usher in a really high Democratic turnout...

"I’m telling you that from someone who is from Virginia, who watched these races, who watched people lose tonight against opponents who are completely no name.”

....Taylor admitted that Trump could threaten the GOP's House majority.

When asked whether Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) would retain his speakership if Trump doesn't moderate, Taylor said it was an "interesting question."

"I think it will handicap the ability for that to happen," he said.

In Taylor's mind, the big lesson is that candidates should define themselves as separate from the president if necessary.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 115th; convictvote; criminalvote; exconvictvote; fear; felonvote; gopestablishment; mcauliffe; nevertrump; nevertrumpers; primary; rino; scotttaylor; taylor; tds; va2017
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To: ilovesarah2012

“It’s a referendum on Virginians are idiots and deserve what they get, e.g. McAuliffe.”

As a Virginian, it’s hard to argue against this point.


21 posted on 11/08/2017 4:41:37 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: yldstrk
Of course the Republicans winning the other special elections this year did nothing to stiffen their spines.

Putzes like this will take this setback use it as an excuse to sit on their hands.

For President Trump though this is time to reload, he is going to keep fighting Yldstrk. He is that kind of man. :)

22 posted on 11/08/2017 4:42:35 AM PST by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank you for that education. Sounds like he needs to be primaried and replaced with a Constitutionalist.


23 posted on 11/08/2017 4:43:50 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: central_va
"I think you are wrong. Corey Stewart wins the next Senate election."

I hope I am wrong for the the sake of the conservatives still in Virginia.
24 posted on 11/08/2017 4:43:59 AM PST by indthkr
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s a sad matter that the guy he beat out-RINOed him, but only on that one issue; but then again, if he was an incumbent last year, who knows if he himself would have supported TPP.


25 posted on 11/08/2017 4:45:58 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: RFEngineer

Free birth control for women and it that fails they can still kill their babies. Women wonder why men think they are selfish. PS Women are the majority voters and they do swing the elections.


26 posted on 11/08/2017 4:48:03 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Olog-hai

Taylor is a disappointment. Forbes though, felt like this was his fiefdom. A pox on both of them.


27 posted on 11/08/2017 4:49:04 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: RFEngineer

NOVA NOW CONTROLS THE STATE AND NOVA IS NOT VIRGINIA!!!!

It is a Marxist DC suburb and needs to be cut off from the rest of the state and joined to DC! With NO senators!

Without NOVA, Virginia is RED in spite of Richmond, Charlottesville, Roanoke and Hampton Roads.......

We’ve been raped and pillaged by Marxist carpetbaggers like McAwful!


28 posted on 11/08/2017 4:49:25 AM PST by Arlis
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To: SoFloFreeper

Or it is a referendum on the Republican do nothing congress?


29 posted on 11/08/2017 4:50:38 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: babble-on

>It’s not surprising that Gillespie lost. Clinton won this state as well<

Not only did Clinton win herself, she had a very popular (yecch) to Virginia democrats VP, Tim Kaine.

The vote last night is surprising, really, in that Democrats are whistling past the graveyard if they do not see how close the race was, even with an establishment candidate on the opposing side.


30 posted on 11/08/2017 4:55:47 AM PST by Darnright
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To: central_va

There is no ‘Rat. There is no RINO.

There is only the uniparty.

And the uniparty doesn’t give a tinker’s dam about the letter after the name of the pol carrying out its wishes.

Conservatives need to go around/over/through party pols, federal, state, and local.

Conservatives need to find and run their own candidates.


31 posted on 11/08/2017 4:56:17 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Maverick68
Nope, not a referendum on Trump, rather the EXPECTED results from a Blue State.

Indeed. There are at least two substantive facts which support your assertion.

One, we in Virginia have had only one Republican Governor in the past four election cycles (16 years). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Virginia. That Ralphy-baby won is no shocker.

Two, Hillary won in Virginia a year ago.

In short, for a RINO like Gillespie to win here in the Old Dominion it would have taken an Act of God™. Or, if not that degree of divine intervention, at least the influence of some sort of political demi-god.

Bottom line, to assert that Northam's victory/Gillespie's loss is a measure of a sea-change in sentiment in the nation is just plain specious, and just plain nuts.

But hey, when has the Left ever allowed reality to penetrate their Progressive Brain Cloud?

32 posted on 11/08/2017 5:02:47 AM PST by Two-Shoes (The Second Amendment exists to guarantee & give teeth to the First.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Go conservative, like Trump, and win.
Go RINO like Gillespie, and lose.
Trump’s fault? Eh?


33 posted on 11/08/2017 5:04:32 AM PST by Flick Lives (The FBI is a taxpayer funded Mafia organization)
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To: woweeitsme
The swamp creatures will attempt to use these losses as a way to get Trump “back in line...or else!”.


34 posted on 11/08/2017 5:06:27 AM PST by Flick Lives (The FBI is a taxpayer funded Mafia organization)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What nonsense. Gillespie ran away from Trump.


35 posted on 11/08/2017 5:07:24 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (A year in Arizona... and I haven't burst into flames yet.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This election wasn’t a referendum on Trump. It was more of a sign of panic among government employees and employees of government contractors about budget cuts and job cuts in massively overstaffed federal bureaucracies. The Trump administration is cutting back on all the unnecessary, expensive bureaucratic process in Washington and will be laying off thousands of government employees and contract employees in the next few years. There’s panic in Northern Virginia as Trump works to end the scam of endless expansion of government programs that cost at least 25% more than necessary (if the program is necessary at all) and endless federal debt piled on the backs of the American people.

Trump’s predecessor was a disaster for the American people and our economy, but he was a huge deficit spender on bureaucracy and government contractors, except for the military. This election is mainly a sign of panic and fear about job losses in Virginia among those on the government payroll.


36 posted on 11/08/2017 5:07:25 AM PST by socialism_stinX (Not only does socialism stink, but when given enough time it wrecks any national economy.)
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To: babble-on; SoFloFreeper
babble-on :" State house goes from 66 Republicans to 52 on Dem turnout.
That’s not about local issues, that’s about a motivated Dem base (and a less motivated Republican one)."

In a geographic location where a preponderance of governmental employees are DemocRATic
(since 8 years of politicized employees under Obama where selection by political party and race matters more than ability)
and the RINO whines about the election being a referendum on Trump's administration.
The Rino never mentions Trump by name during the entire election process,
and hopes that an 11th hour ("Hail Mary") support telephone call from Trump will strengthen his failing candidacy.
The Rino candidate doesn't deserve to win since he is part of the uni-party, proven by his failure to embrace much of Trump's policies.

37 posted on 11/08/2017 5:09:58 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: socialism_stinX

This election wasn’t a referendum on Trump’s broad policies affecting the entire country. But it was a reaction to specific policy actions affecting people on the government payroll in Northern Virginia (see my earlier post).


38 posted on 11/08/2017 5:10:38 AM PST by socialism_stinX (Not only does socialism stink, but when given enough time it wrecks any national economy.)
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To: Arlis

Virginia has failed to run actual conservatives for statewide offices for some time now. If you try to out-liberal the democrats you’ll lose every time.


39 posted on 11/08/2017 5:14:35 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SoFloFreeper
“I don’t know how you get around that this wasn’t a referendum on the administration, I just don’t," Taylor told reporters at Gillespie's election night party.

Gillespie rejecting Trump is the reason why this vote wasn't a repudiation of Trump. The democrats rejected Trump by rejecting a republican. The republicans didn't have a pro-Trump choice.

40 posted on 11/08/2017 5:15:36 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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