Posted on 11/10/2017 6:20:44 PM PST by zeestephen
Moore's comments on Sean Hannity's radio show..."I don't know Ms. Corfman from anybody. I never talked to her, never had any contact with her. Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false," Moore said.
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>There are a few cultures and cults in the world that would disagree with this line of thinking, but not any with a shred of common sense of maybe decency.
So now you’ve shifted to the whole world agrees with me thus I don’t have to debate the issue. In reality, the entire world and most of the historical civilizations outside the neo-purtin set disagrees with your thinking.
Men go to war and die starting at 16 in most civilizations. Why shouldn’t women be married at 16 or 17? Come on sweetheart, answer the question.
I heard Hannity, had to turn him off. Not thinking about the timeline and the way of life in Alabama AT THE TIME is feeding the NeverTrump/Leftist monster.
That the accounts appear to have been bought by Leftwing journalists, encouraging the suggested "victims' to fantasize Moore's intentions, for political motives 38 years before! the "discovery" of these new fantasies, makes anyone who embraces this smear, look to be quite slimey, indeed.
One other point, Southern culture has from the early settlements by Cavalier types, celebrated a chaste flirtation between the sexes --of all ages-- which is an integral part of a culture that has always been very, very protective of women.
Standing up against the Washington Post & "whipped cur" Republican lynching, is a long overdue blow for restoring elemental decency in American politics.
All of us now have a stake in Judge Moore's winning.
See my comment #203.
Late teens = 100% legal = No reason to quit or be sanctioned.
Hell, it's not even slimey.
The establishment republicans hate Hannity now. And he returns the sentiment. He wants them on his show, is all. But you can hear him rip the uniparty establishment all the time.
There are a lot of factors with young pretty girls growing up. Plenty of them do NOT think they are desirable or fear they aren’t [something] enough. Maybe 99.9% of girls are insecure in middle school. And pretty girls sometimes have already been abused by adults and think they know what is what when they have NO CLUE. It’s a tough time of life for girls who aren’t really busy with a sport or hobby. My hobby was boys and men and I wish I had had a better one like badminton or needlepoint! ;)
What I mean is dating in terms of a potential romantic involvement. And according to the woman who was the 17 year old girl in question, it was chaste dating with kissing. Several dates. For a few months.
I believe that if you remember this girl and remember that she was a friend, you remember that you were interested in her in that way enough to have kissyface dates with her over a period of months.
So I believe he DOES remember whether this teen friend he had for months in his thirties was a romantic friend. And he is not being honest about his memory. Which doesn’t serve him well.
I like his politics but he isn’t being honest about the 17 year old, WHICH WAS NOT ILLEGAL. No need to lie. It’s troubling to me.
Hannity is a mixed bag that has a deep establishment streak. He’s a republican before he is a conservative. He is a republican before whatever religious belief he has. For example, I dont think he would support a conservative democrat (there use to be such a thing) over a liberal Republican. I’ve watched his Fox show with high-hopes, but have become more and more disappointed. For example, he just loves that establishment pig, Carl Rowe. Also Hannity may often have his heart in the right place, but he’s just not very smart.
The kicker for me was his siding with the ridiculous slander against Moore and his repeating of the charges (word for word) as if they were true. This after some of us gave him the benefit of the doubt on sexual slander that was charged against him. If I followed his lead, I would be saying:
“I think that bringing a female employee to a hotel room and trying to coerce favors is unforgivable and should be prosecuted at once. Perhaps Hannity, would you like to explain to us why you did this and let us know the facts so we can get to the bottom of the truth.”
Now to be clear, I think both Hannity and Moore are innocent and have been slandered. But Hannity is the disappointment, I may never watch him again!
Sometimes when I am feeling a little guilty about my adolescence I think about the dozen or so otherwise date-free girls who I escorted to proms, weddings, etc. at the behest of my older sister. One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was to make that date feel like I was not just a forced fixup. My sister was a smart gal.
Hannity is a mixed bag that has a deep establishment streak. He’s a republican before he is a conservative. He is a republican before whatever religious belief he has.
Ridiculous slander against Moore? Not Hannity. I was really kind of upset at him Thursday for defending Moore to the over the top degree he was. I take these accusations seriously. I didn’t know what Moore did (still dont) but on Thursday. Hannity was railing for 3 hours about this being a hit job on Moore for political purposes. He over defended Moore. No surprise he had him on the next day to toss him the softballs and clear up these allegations.
I went for a long hike Friday afternoon so missed a lot of his show. On the way home I heard him for a moment and he was strikingly more equivocal about Moore. I wondered what had happened. Later last night I saw he had been on the show, and I read the responses Moore gave. No wonder Hannity changed his over the top defense.
It is fatiguing how FReepers critique Hannity’s intelligence. He is a good, loyal, trustworthy, conservative person who can speak extemporaneously for 20+ hours a week, work for 15-20 hours a day, with flair and energy and passion. You try that. I know I don’t have that kind of energy! He doesn’t shrink from fights even if they affect his bottom line. So I don’t wish to measure his IQ against anyone. It’s not important because he is the real deal. I’d prefer 1 Hannity on our side over a bunch of pointy headed intellectuals who are lazy and wrong half the time.
I think you’re a smart guy, who had fun with a lot of grateful girls who may not have been prom queens but were probably great people nonetheless. And I am sure those social qualities have helped you in your professional life as well.
Isn’t it sad? Using “start dates” to support one’s argument is beyond ridiculous. One would think they would realize this and be embarrassed but, there it is.
Frankly, it is healthy reasonable debate that makes FR appealing...sad when it degenerates to personal attacks, etc. and picking on people for when they signed up or where they live as I saw in this thread...
Regarding Moore, many here are conflicted...I am one of them...Timing, etc. is very suspicious, source is suspicious. However, Moore did not do well in the Hannity interview either.
Re: “But I can TELL he is lying about the 17 year old.”
Lied about what?
As far as I know, the only thing the older girls claim is that 40 years ago Moore offered them alcohol when they were underage, a charge that Moore denies, and a charge that cannot be proved or disproved.
Today, almost one half of high school students admit they have smoked marijuana.
But, establishment GOP leaders want Moore to hand over a U.S. Senate seat to the radical Left Democrat Party because he has been accused of offering alcohol to a couple of underage girls, 40 years ago, in a rural Alabama county.
Sorry, I am not going to climb on that band wagon.
For two possible reasons...
He is not a practiced liar or actor.
Or, he is completely innocent, and has no experience defending the embarrassing details of his personal life in public.
I’m not on any bandwagon and I’m only referring to Moore’s disturbing “memory” comment. He doesn’t remember speaking to her civics class, sounds fair. But he REMEMBERS THAT A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL WAS HIS FRIEND. And then he has no recollection of dating her. That latter is what cannot be true.
If you remember back to your thirties when you had a friendship with a high schooler, you know damn well whether you liked her enough to want to kiss her or not. She says they dated chastely, with some kissing.
It wasn’t illegal. So there was more benefit for Moore if he had been honest about what he remembered with her. He chose not to be. Which is what bothers me.
Good people can be honest.
“I am a Moore supporter, but I have to say that his answers to Sean Hannity today were less than concise,”
My initial reaction to what he said....
I didn’t do that. But I can’t remember.
Re: “However, Moore did not do well in the Hannity interview either.”
For two possible reasons...
He is not a practiced liar or actor.
Or, he is completely innocent, and has no experience defending the embarrassing details of his personal life in public.
I have no idea why he did not do well, as I stated in post to which you replied, I, like many, am conflicted.
However, I am somewhat surprised that as a former lawyer and judge, Moore did not do better. I had to do a disposition once for a family member~the depositon lasted over 3 hours. Prior to deposition, lawyer gave me a DVD on how to prepare for deposition. DVD said over and over, answer the question asked, provide simple honest accurate answers, don’t add to your answer or answer something not asked, etc. Not a long DVD...maybe 30-45 minutes.
Moore did not follow these guidelines.
If my lawyer had a DVD on the subject and “prepped” me, I would think it is rather common place information, and I would think Moore might have actually advised others when preparing cases—and watched it play out in courtroom, etc.
Got it, thanks.
OK. I believe that.
But I think you will acknowledge that a “bandwagon” does exist, and that the goal of that bandwagon is to elect a Democrat senator from Alabama.
Moore has denied knowing the 14 year old, so, unless WaPo can prove he did know her, that allegation is dead.
However, you are still willing to offer aid and comfort to the Democrat bandwagon, based only your personal belief that Moore is lying about not “dating” one of the other teenagers 40 years ago.
In my opinion, that is a reckless political decision on your part that invites legitimate criticism.
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