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MT: Pheasant Hunter Kills Charging Grizzly with 12 Gauge
Ammoland ^ | 13 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/14/2017 7:11:39 AM PST by marktwain

11 year old Elliot Clark killed this charging grizzly with a shotgun in Alaska in July of 2017.  He used a 12 gauge shotgun.

The first shot was ineffective, with bird shot. The second shot was a perfectly placed slug in middle of the nose. The third shot was to the shoulder. It is likely both would have been fatal. There were powder burns on the bears mouth from the third shot. The fourth shot was an insurance shot after the bear was down.

In Montana, a few days ago, in early November, 2017, a 60-year-old pheasant hunter shot and killed a charging grizzly bear, mortally wounding it. He used a 12 gauge shotgun.
While details of the story are a little muddy, one account says  he shot in air, then shot the bear in the chest, as it ran at him. The final shot was said to be in the bear's face. 
From ktvq.com:

PENDROY – A bird hunter shot and killed a grizzly bear five miles east of Pendroy Saturday. Pendroy is about 80 miles northwest of Great Falls.

According to Mike Madel of Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks, the hunter shot the adult female grizzly in the face with a 12-gauge shotgun.

The bear ran off. Then next day, the bear was found, dead.

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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/hes-bullish-on-bears/article4194115/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&;

Parks Canada keeps a close eye on all bears these days and removes any that wander too close to the townsite. However they estimate that some 700 bears inhabit the area so hiking trails are posted and hikers advised to carry bear spray and bells to warn off the bears. My last hike we encountered a black bear and he ran off once he spotted us. Be bear wise and you will really enjoy hiking in the Banff Lake Louise area.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bear-148-banff-encounters-hikers-dogs-1.4106825

These inexperienced hikers wandered into bear 148’s territory and their dog was not leashed causing the bear to chase them off. The encounter caused Park Wardens to capture the young female Griz and and move her. she subsequently roamed out of park boundaries and was legally shot and killed. That is why I personally do not like to see the killing of a bear sensationalized.


41 posted on 11/14/2017 8:51:39 AM PST by albertabound
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To: marktwain
How mean!

Why didn't he just call the police?

42 posted on 11/14/2017 9:03:19 AM PST by Savage Beast (TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE THE RESISTANCE !!! VIVE LA RESISTANCE!)
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To: albertabound

The grizzly was definitely charging - That slug that hit the bear in the nose was an entry shot.


43 posted on 11/14/2017 9:05:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: ZULU

While a handgun is better than nothing, I would never choose it for bear defense.

12 gauge, 3in mag with 00 or slugs is the tool of choice.


44 posted on 11/14/2017 9:13:38 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Poison Pill

...Wow. I would have bet money that bird shot in the face would do squat to a charging grizzly bear...

Biirshot at 3 feet leaves a gigantic hole.


45 posted on 11/14/2017 9:24:03 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: marktwain
There were powder burns on the bears mouth from the third shot.

Do the powder burns imply the bear was pretty darn close? That's pretty ballsy of that boy, but what are you going to do after you piss off a bear? Cower?

46 posted on 11/14/2017 9:26:39 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: marktwain
Bird shot is deadly to big game at extremely close range (less than 5 yards).

On humans also, which is why my home defense 38 Special has bird shot in the first two cylinders, ball in the rest.

47 posted on 11/14/2017 9:26:59 AM PST by Oatka
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To: Oatka

On humans also, which is why my home defense 38 Special has bird shot in the first two cylinders, ball in the rest.


Bird shot out of a .38 Special revolver is far less effective.

First, because the shot charge is very small (100 grains) less than 1/4 ounce or 1/5 of a 12 gauge standard load.

Second the short, rifled barrel of a .38 revolver imparts spin to the charge, causing it to open much more rapidly than even a cylinder bore in a shotgun.

I suggest that you pattern your chosen loads at 5 and 10 feet on paper or on gallon milk jugs of water.

Here is a test that was done on shot loads. The test was well done, IMHO.

https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-30-snakeloads-o-truth/


48 posted on 11/14/2017 9:37:22 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Short stroked my 870 once

Worst jam I ever had


49 posted on 11/14/2017 9:44:44 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: marktwain

Young Clint Eastwood didn’t panic class all the way.


50 posted on 11/14/2017 9:55:30 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Ozark Tom

Beeswax and bird-shot add up to a ‘MacGyvered’ slug giving tens-of-yards in effective range.


Yes. Another “home brewed” slug is the “cut shell”.


51 posted on 11/14/2017 10:13:40 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Interesting video. Thanks.

I’m concerned about shooting in the dim/dark confines of a bedroom at 2 a.m. Don’t want a ball cartridge exiting the house and hitting a neighbor. I use Hornady Home Defense for backup rounds. Not concerned about daylight as I wear a .380 Ruger (semi-rural area).


52 posted on 11/14/2017 10:15:23 AM PST by Oatka
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The only hunting I’ve done is predator hunting. Coyotes, wolves, Islam etc, so I just load for that.

If I am going to hunt something else, I’d carry a designated self defense firearm.


53 posted on 11/14/2017 10:23:37 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: DPMD

Lol, what a contrast. Good observation.


54 posted on 11/14/2017 10:27:53 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Seruzawa

I have a new Mossberg that jammed right out of the box.

It was such a common problem that they had a “fix” all ready to go

Installed it. Still jams. Screwed. FU Mossberg.


55 posted on 11/14/2017 10:55:28 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Savage Beast

I agree. And how does a bear get a 12 gauge in the first place?


56 posted on 11/14/2017 12:31:24 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: sparklite2

Rim shot!


57 posted on 11/14/2017 12:55:39 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Oatka

You might consider a pre-fragmented round like the Glaser safety slug.

https://www.corbon.com/glaser-safety-slug.html


58 posted on 11/14/2017 1:25:12 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

With a Model 12 Winchester, you can hold down the trigger and it will fire with each pump. Also has a bayonet mount. :)


59 posted on 11/14/2017 2:40:28 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain

Yes. Another “home brewed” slug is the “cut shell”.

-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
AKA Beastshot.


60 posted on 11/14/2017 2:57:57 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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