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California, Where Sanctuary Cities Are No Longer Sanctuaries
Townhall.com ^ | Nov 20, 2017 | Arthur Schaper

Posted on 11/19/2017 11:03:58 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

Seemingly absent from the fight for the last two months, Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered 29 more sanctuary jurisdictions to comply with federal immigration laws or lose funding.

The sanctuary city debate is the essential fight on illegal immigration, as these lawless jurisdictions signal to the world: “Come here illegally, and we won’t stop you.”

These cities invite crime, drug and human trafficking, and degradation to our American quality of life. AG Sessions has witnessed key victories: Suffolk and Miami Counties complied and rescinded their lawless resistance. Even Virginia Democratic governor-elect Ralph Northam announced opposition to sanctuary jurisdictions, to the hateful despair of his Democratic base.

We will see whether “Sanctuary State” Governor-Elect Phil Murphy follows through on his promise to turn New Jersey into an outlaw state, too.

In California, the sanctuary cities fight has become particularly contentious. Los Angeles hasn’t officially labeled itself such, but activists are agitating for the name change. Only one California city, Pittsburgh, rescinded its sanctuary city stance. Oxnard opted for “Safe City”, at the behest of the police chief. Sacramento lawmakers passed their Sanctuary State law, but only after Governor Brown required massive revisions to sign that bill.

Despite these “victories”, illegal social justice warriors won’t stop until ICE is permanently banned from California’s borders: law-breakers in; law enforcement out. Opponents of the sanctuary state law (including Los Angeles County Sheriff Jim McDonnell) warned the amnesty panderers that any state statute would not prevent federal officials from enforcing immigration laws. Despite California lawmakers’ attempt to hamstring cooperation between the jails and the immigration officers, sheriffs are siding with the feds and reporting as many illegals to ICE as possible. So much for sanctuary ordinances. The fight against the rule of law has not stayed in Los Angeles, either. Indivisible 35 wants the Pomona city council to impose a detailed sanctuary city ordinance, doubling-down on the lawlessness.

The sanctuary city push, however, has undermined the essence of what cities are supposed to be: safe havens for citizens. Outside the Roybal Federal Building in Downtown Los Angeles, I counter-protested a vigil for the federal government to restore the Temporary Protective Status program, a much-abused refugee grant which allowed foreigners to stay for extended periods of time. Despite heavy police presence, the TPS protesters stole my signs, right under the nose of the supervising police officers. Then they tore one of my signs up … right in front of the LAPD Sergeant Keenan. He refused to enforce the law against the pro-illegals. I had to settle for compensation from one of the pastoral leaders, and a police report. Where’s the sanctuary for me as a citizen?

Three days later in the West Adams area of Los Angeles , McCarty Memorial Christian Church hosted a Saturday morning “Sanctuary Town Hall.” They want Los Angeles to adopt an official sanctuary city policy, too. It was advertised to the public by PeoplePower.org through the ACLU, so I signed up, as did fifteen fellow Trump supporters. Where’s the dialogue if the other side—those who favor enforcement of our immigration laws—cannot attend?

The church, a decayed neo-Gothic architecture in the midst of a decaying section of a dying city, stood out as the last relic of an older, saner Los Angeles community from the early 1930s. McCarty Church had a Catholic cathedral feel to it, until I saw the swastikas etched into the church floor tiles. Any sense of welcoming inclusivity was dispelled within ten minutes of our arrival, when the illegal alien organizers told us to leave. “You have come to disrupt the meeting.” And illegals breaking into our country is not a disruption? Clearly, these ACLU “Fight for Fifteen” types weren’t interested in discussion.

The organizers called the police on us, then moved their “meeting” into the church basement. Undaunted, our team demanded the right to attend. It was a public meeting, even if they were holding the event in a private space. The Reverend had even promised that we could stay, but then laid down last-minute conditions. More discrimination, this time against citizens. This drive for sanctuary status has turned safe havens into battlefields of bitter, ideological conflict.

Two of our team entered the room. Then a third member pushed through, despite police presence blocking us, and he was arrested on the spot (the police released him without citation). Officer Choub ordered everyone out of the church, or he would cite us for trespassing. WHAT?! Ten minutes later, the police led the two members in the meeting out of the church in hand-cuffs. McCarty Memorial Christian Church was not a welcome place for all after all.

This is the new meaning of “sanctuary city”. A church in Los Angeles hosts a town hall to teach illegal aliens how to skirt our nation’s immigration laws and how to organize the take-down of Los Angeles City Hall. American citizens are denied entry to this meeting, advertised to the public, and the police violate our rights, following orders from the corrupt, left-wing city council. Where is the “sanctuary” in sanctuary cities?

Despite all the ongoing agitation among these left-wing groups to push cities to impose their own local outlaw ordinances, it’s evident that sanctuary cities have not provided any sanctuary for the illegals, either. ICE is still knocking on doors, arresting and deporting illegal aliens, and enforcing our immigration laws. Sanctuary is gone not just for the illegals, but now taxpaying citizens find no safety or security.

AG Sessions is going after cities, but he needs to target these lawless churches. The churches! They are supposed to be the essence of sanctuary, providing refuge to those falsely accused of crime or fleeing political or religious persecution. But what happens when the citizens are persecuted in their own country, and by the very houses of worship founded on a respect for divine and by extension temporal authorities?

These are grave times indeed for the Republic, especially in California. Where there is no law, the people perish, but the entire country cannot long stand divided in this manner.


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What they need to do is arrest these mayors as accessories to crimes and take away their lawsuit shields so they can be held personally liable for violating the law.
1 posted on 11/19/2017 11:03:58 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Given that Saudi Arabia is now in league with Israel and the USA against Iran, it wouldn’t surprise me if Iran takes advantage of two things right now:

- Trump’s sole focus on North Korea.

- CA’s suicidal drive for open borders.

If Vegas placed odds on geopolitics, it would set 2-to-1 odds that Iran uses CA’s call for open borders, sneaks in dirty nukes, and radiates San Diego, LA, and Silicon Valley.


2 posted on 11/19/2017 11:24:32 PM PST by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Sessions is acting solidly where he and that part of the DoJ he controls can be effective. He is also steering the Mueller travesty from off stage and the whole thing is shining lights on Clinton and her crew. I have not given up on our AG. He is doing what Trump wants him to do as he wants it done. Were that not so he would not have stayed where he is.


3 posted on 11/19/2017 11:29:20 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The feds are in charge when it comes to border control and immigration.

If california wants to repeatedly violate federal law, and flip the middle finger to the rest of the states, then it’s time to kick them out of the union.

All of the other states are getting tired of california dictating to us how we’re supposed to act.

Try your fortunes with your new masters in mexico city.


4 posted on 11/19/2017 11:54:47 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: factoryrat

Cut off ten thousand federal grants, subsidies, matching funds, etc. to the state.

Cali will go broke taking each issue to court....


5 posted on 11/20/2017 1:51:17 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Vision Thing
“If Vegas placed odds on geopolitics, it would set 2-to-1 odds that Iran uses CA’s call for open borders, sneaks in dirty nukes, and radiates San Diego, LA, and Silicon Valley.”

And just who do you think protects our international borders? Answer: The Federal Government. CA has nothing to do with it! There is no more of a possibility of a WMD coming into the US through the international border in CA than it is in Texas. In fact, given that the international border in Texas is a river, it's probably a more likely place for such an occurrence than CA. CA is trying to “protect” the illegals once they are here, but the state has no power to control the border itself.

6 posted on 11/20/2017 2:47:54 AM PST by vette6387
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To: factoryrat
“If california wants to repeatedly violate federal law, and flip the middle finger to the rest of the states, then it’s time to kick them out of the union.”

So you're saying that the 40% of this state who are conservatives don't deserve the protection of our Federal government? And then there's the issue of FR if, as you suggest we are “kicked out of the union.” Last time I looked at the FR masthead is said that FR was located in Fresno, which is still in CA. Nice that you have such little regard for us. Just a side note, if we go, you'd better be thinking about a “victory garden,” because we feed you. PS, I see you're in Oregon. Your state is far worse than CA in it's harboring of illegals. Portland should be renamed Moscow on the Columbia. And Oregon would probably be right behind CA in seceding from the US. Plus your Senators are as big a couple of POS as ours are. And then there's that nutball Blumenauer with his cute little bicycle on his lapel. You live in a glass house, you shouldn't be throwing rocks.

7 posted on 11/20/2017 3:03:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS

ping


8 posted on 11/20/2017 3:03:55 AM PST by Liz
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To: factoryrat

thats why CA is as it is, people get tired of the fight and walk away allowing states like CA to be more and more liberal based. but those leaving the increasingly liberal voting states go to other states and over time those states become more liberal. people need to stand and fight back not duck and run! otherwise the fight just continues on with less people engaged on the good side because they ran from their position leaving holes in the front line. they were too weak willed or poorly equipped to fight and instead of fighting all they cowardly gave up to save their own self and possessions. is USofA about everyman for themselves? it would never have begun in the first place if that were the case. A lot of founders gave all, many citizens today not willing to be inconvenienced or get involved in meaning full ways.


9 posted on 11/20/2017 3:23:54 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: vette6387

I feel the same way about how NJ is treated; while generally a lib state, there are conservatives here (we elected anti-tax, pro-life governor Christie twice). Just because there are more libs than us doesn’t mean the whole state is nuts and fruits...


10 posted on 11/20/2017 3:24:05 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Liz
This is present day Kalifornia. Land of Santuary, Government Handouts and Oppressive Leftist Ideology in Action.


11 posted on 11/20/2017 4:41:49 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: b4me

thats why CA is as it is, people get tired of the fight and walk away allowing states like CA to be more and more liberal based. but those leaving the increasingly liberal voting states go to other states and over time those states become more liberal. people need to stand and fight back “not duck and run! otherwise the fight just continues on with less people engaged on the good side because they ran from their position leaving holes in the front line. they were too weak willed or poorly equipped to fight and instead of fighting all they cowardly gave up to save their own self and possessions. is USofA about everyman for themselves? it would never have begun in the first place if that were the case. A lot of founders gave all, many citizens today not willing to be inconvenienced or get involved in meaning full ways.”


Exactly my thoughts on the public schools. Many here feel it’s best to abandon them to the liberals, and send their own kids to private school.

Running and hiding is never the answer, and their kids will find out the hard way when they’re outvoted 3 to 1 by their peers, who the left were permitted to shape and teach free of conservative opposition.

Stand and fight.


12 posted on 11/20/2017 5:48:17 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: b4me

No one in California got tired of the fight, the federal government allowed the third world to overrun our state. California is home to over ten million immigrants. the next closest state has four. California also is home to the most illegal aliens in the US. Very few of those people are voting for self reliance, they all come from socialist countries for a reason.


13 posted on 11/20/2017 5:52:29 AM PST by Yogafist (Smith Storme)
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To: vette6387

I have lived in all three west coast states. Used to be nice places to live. Now all three are in the trash heap. After mulling it over, I can’t conclude which state is worse.


14 posted on 11/20/2017 5:56:24 AM PST by chief lee runamok
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Seemingly absent from the fight for the last two months, Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered 29 more sanctuary jurisdictions to comply with federal immigration laws or lose funding. 

The sanctuary city debate is the essential fight on illegal immigration, as these lawless jurisdictions signal to the world: “Come here illegally, and we won’t stop you.” 

These cities invite crime, drug and human trafficking, and degradation to our American quality of life. AG Sessions has witnessed key victories: Suffolk and Miami Counties complied and rescinded their lawless resistance. Even Virginia Democratic governor-elect Ralph Northam announced opposition to sanctuary jurisdictions, to the hateful despair of his Democratic base. 

We will see whether “Sanctuary State” Governor-Elect Phil Murphy follows through on his promise to turn New Jersey into an outlaw state, too.

In California, the sanctuary cities fight has become particularly contentious. Los Angeles hasn’t officially labeled itself such, but activists are agitating for the name change. Only one California city, Pittsburgh, rescinded its sanctuary city stance. Oxnard opted for “Safe City”, at the behest of the police chief. Sacramento lawmakers passed their Sanctuary State law, but only after Governor Brown required massive revisions to sign that bill.

Despite these “victories”, illegal social justice warriors won’t stop until ICE is permanently banned from California’s borders: law-breakers in; law enforcement out. Opponents of the sanctuary state law (including Los Angeles County Sheriff Jim McDonnell) warned the amnesty panderers that any state statute would not prevent federal officials from enforcing immigration laws. Despite California lawmakers’ attempt to hamstring cooperation between the jails and the immigration officers, sheriffs are siding with the feds and reporting as many illegals to ICE as possible. So much for sanctuary ordinances. The fight against the rule of law has not stayed in Los Angeles, either. Indivisible 35 wants the Pomona city council to impose a detailed sanctuary city ordinance, doubling-down on the lawlessness.

The sanctuary city push, however, has undermined the essence of what cities are supposed to be: safe havens for citizens. Outside the Roybal Federal Building in Downtown Los Angeles, I counter-protested a vigil for the federal government to restore the Temporary Protective Status program, a much-abused refugee grant which allowed foreigners to stay for extended periods of time. Despite heavy police presence, the TPS protesters stole my signs, right under the nose of the supervising police officers. Then they tore one of my signs up … right in front of the LAPD Sergeant Keenan. He refused to enforce the law against the pro-illegals. I had to settle for compensation from one of the pastoral leaders, and a police report. Where’s the sanctuary for me as a citizen?

Three days later in the West Adams area of Los Angeles , McCarty Memorial Christian Church hosted a Saturday morning “Sanctuary Town Hall.” They want Los Angeles to adopt an official sanctuary city policy, too. It was advertised to the public by PeoplePower.org through the ACLU, so I signed up, as did fifteen fellow Trump supporters. Where’s the dialogue if the other side—those who favor enforcement of our immigration laws—cannot attend?

The church, a decayed neo-Gothic architecture in the midst of a decaying section of a dying city, stood out as the last relic of an older, saner Los Angeles community from the early 1930s. McCarty Church had a Catholic cathedral feel to it, until I saw the swastikas etched into the church floor tiles. Any sense of welcoming inclusivity was dispelled within ten minutes of our arrival, when the illegal alien organizers told us to leave. “You have come to disrupt the meeting.” And illegals breaking into our country is not a disruption? Clearly, these ACLU “Fight for Fifteen” types weren’t interested in discussion.

The organizers called the police on us, then moved their “meeting” into the church basement. Undaunted, our team demanded the right to attend. It was a public meeting, even if they were holding the event in a private space. The Reverend had even promised that we could stay, but then laid down last-minute conditions. More discrimination, this time against citizens. This drive for sanctuary status has turned safe havens into battlefields of bitter, ideological conflict.

Two of our team entered the room. Then a third member pushed through, despite police presence blocking us, and he was arrested on the spot (the police released him without citation). Officer Choub ordered everyone out of the church, or he would cite us for trespassing. WHAT?! Ten minutes later, the police led the two members in the meeting out of the church in hand-cuffs. McCarty Memorial Christian Church was not a welcome place for all after all.

This is the new meaning of “sanctuary city”. A church in Los Angeles hosts a town hall to teach illegal aliens how to skirt our nation’s immigration laws and how to organize the take-down of Los Angeles City Hall. American citizens are denied entry to this meeting, advertised to the public, and the police violate our rights, following orders from the corrupt, left-wing city council.  Where is the “sanctuary” in sanctuary cities?

Despite all the ongoing agitation among these left-wing groups to push cities to impose their own local outlaw ordinances, it’s evident that sanctuary cities have not provided any sanctuary for the illegals, either. ICE is still knocking on doors, arresting and deporting illegal aliens, and enforcing our immigration laws. Sanctuary is gone not just for the illegals, but now taxpaying citizens find no safety or security.

AG Sessions is going after cities, but he needs to target these lawless churches. The churches! They are supposed to be the essence of sanctuary, providing refuge to those falsely accused of crime or fleeing political or religious persecution. But what happens when the citizens are persecuted in their own country, and by the very houses of worship founded on a respect for divine and by extension temporal authorities?

These are grave times indeed for the Republic, especially in California. Where there is no law, the people perish, but the entire country cannot long stand divided in this manner.


15 posted on 11/20/2017 6:04:35 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Why was the Sanctuary church not burned to the ground?


16 posted on 11/20/2017 6:04:36 AM PST by Thibodeaux (whites seem to actually be supreme)
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To: vette6387

And don’t forget our uber-libereal SJW governortrix, the bisexual Kate Brown. Didn’t think anyone could be worse than Kitzhaber, but she has managed to do so.


17 posted on 11/20/2017 6:48:19 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Inspectorette

To be fair, as is the case with both California and Washington state, all three states are ruled by the concentrations of Marxists in their major metropolitan areas. So Seattle rules WA and Portland rules OR. CA is a little more complex but it’s still the major population centers here that have enough votes to control our government. I mean CA isn’t the place most believe it to be when you can easily get a CACCW permit in 35 of our 58 counties, and we have more guns than ANY state in the union.


18 posted on 11/20/2017 8:32:00 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

40% is wishful thinking. A quarter of california is populated by mexican squatters.

Face it, you’re outmanned and outgunned by illegal mexicans and flaming moonbat liberals.

As far as the Oregon jab is concerned, I moved to this shithole state for a job. As far as I’m concerned, an earthquake or tsunami could wash everything west of the cascades right off of the map, and I could care less.

California needs to get its shit together. You’re like a bad rash that refuses to go away. California is the left coast version of the rustbelt/detroit/baltimore/chicago/tijuana/venezuala.


19 posted on 11/20/2017 4:45:58 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: arthurus

>>Sessions is acting solidly where he and that part of the DoJ he controls can be effective. He is also steering the Mueller travesty from off stage and the whole thing is shining lights on Clinton and her crew. I have not given up on our AG. He is doing what Trump wants him to do as he wants it done. Were that not so he would not have stayed where he is.<<

Certainly a very positive assessment of Mr. Sessions, and I hope it’s accurate, but I seriously doubt it.


20 posted on 11/20/2017 6:21:16 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat
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