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To: gandalftb

I am simply amazed at how many people run to MSM talking points without bothering to look up the actual law.

The “Logan Act” talking point was never mentioned until today, when the MSM brought it up as a red herring.

Read the elements of 18 U.S. Code § 953.

Cooperation with Russia AGAINST ISIS wouldn’t even be a technical violation of the law.

Moreover, one federal court has already ruled that the Constitutionality of the Logan Act (18 USCS § 953) is doubtful under Amendment 6 to the United States Constitution that an accused shall be informed of nature and cause of accusation since statute makes use of vague and indefinite terms, “defeat” and “measures.” Waldron v British Petroleum Co. (1964, SD NY) 231 F Supp 72, 8 FR Serv 2d 56F.1, Case 1.


25 posted on 12/01/2017 11:24:16 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

I’m not talking about anything involving ISIS. The Logan Act is the law of the land until it is revised or thrown out by the Supreme Court. Lower courts don’t stop prosecution under that act.

You can’t talk to any foreign power unless you are authorized. That means, sworn in, period.


36 posted on 12/01/2017 11:29:38 AM PST by gandalftb (OK State, Go Cowboys!!)
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To: TexasGurl24

According to Gregg Jarrett, nobody has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act of 1799. New York Federal Court has already determined in 1964, that its unconstitutional, and Jarrett says it specifically violates the 1st Amendment. Jarrett: “If candidate Trump had somebody reach out to the Russians or any foreign government during a campaign, where’s the crime? There’s no statute that makes that against the law.” Obama did it as a candidate, as have many others who don’t specifically have a background/experience in foreign relations in order to build up their chances to get elected.


124 posted on 12/01/2017 4:46:05 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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