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BREAKING: US Senate Passes Historic Tax Reform Package, 51-49
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 12/02/2017 1:37:52 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: SkyPilot

81 posted on 12/02/2017 5:14:30 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Scotswife; nopardons
So how in the heck will every Blue Stater manage to pick up and move if they can’t get a sale price large enough to pay off their mortgage? Who will buy their homes?

Oh, they won't care. You will get smarmy comments like:"If you don't like it MOVE!"

No matter if you have a home, a life, a job, parents, friends, churches, etc.

Just move to where they are - because the state that they live in is the only "correct" one.

82 posted on 12/02/2017 5:16:13 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3609821/posts


83 posted on 12/02/2017 5:16:28 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: jimbug
The irony of this statement, made in Pennsylvania, home of the hated school tax on property that has been the downfall of many a politician who promised to kill this tax and didn't. When this tax plan goes through, we lose $10,000 of deductions, mostly property tax and medical. I am retired on Social Security and my wife works a job where she is getting paid 65% of her marketable value. Thanks Mr. Trump.

Yup. Thanks indeed.

Be careful around here though - if you are not jumping into the pit with the rest, you might be labeled a heretic.


84 posted on 12/02/2017 5:18:01 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: JayGalt
glad to do it for the good of the country and for the massive effect on the National debt

Congress will never do anything to reduce the debt. It just isn't in their DNA. Everything they will ever do will always be about their own bottom line at the expense of the nation, and there is no situation so bad the can't make it worse.

85 posted on 12/02/2017 5:18:41 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: marktwain

Furthermore, who works for these corporations?
Us!
Who has money invested in 401K and equities pegged to the
success of these corporations?
Guess who!
So who needs corporations to be profitable
and incented to expand and hire?
You tell me!


86 posted on 12/02/2017 5:20:06 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: JayGalt
There is a 10K allowance for State/local taxes, thanks to Susan Collins.

That was a nice crumb they were so generous to throw our way.

The problem with it is that state and local deductions are fully taken away from us (read: made illegal).

Therefore, if you itemize, you won't get state and local. So you are stuck with the standard deduction.

The problem with the "doubling" of the standard deduction is that they are also eliminating (read: made illegal) the personal exemption. So it really isn't a "doubling" at all.

87 posted on 12/02/2017 5:20:36 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

“Really? You are unable to fathom that analogy?”

Trying to conflate the tax bill with Obamacare is nonsense. You seem to be of the mind that somehow those who were screwed by Obamacare are the same folks who with somehow be similarly affected by a tax reform package that isn’t even complete enough to assess. We are ALL affected by government to one degree or another, but you seem to be of the mind that change adversely affects you preferentially. Maybe you should see what the final product looks like?


88 posted on 12/02/2017 5:20:53 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SkyPilot

I don’t recall that ever being a campaign issue right?
When I hear that argument I really try to picture what people here really WANT.


89 posted on 12/02/2017 5:21:29 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: TheStickman
???

Do you possess the capacity to read?

90 posted on 12/02/2017 5:21:31 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: vette6387

I was right - you don’t know what an analogy is.


91 posted on 12/02/2017 5:22:09 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: momincombatboots

You paying more does not mean you are subsidizing other tax payers. That is a ridiculous concept. We(taxpayers) are all getting screwed some, some now less so then others, but it is all one big screw job.


92 posted on 12/02/2017 5:22:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Thibodeaux

I believe in business freedom not business control.

Nigel Farage had a business career and he has a media business career going now.

He likes capitalism but he doesn’t like Corporatism with big corporations, big banks and big business colluding.

They work together to shut the little business people out.

I think see that influence on this tax legislation.


93 posted on 12/02/2017 5:22:42 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: SkyPilot

of course MAGA has nothing to do with this, but don’t let the facts get in your way...


94 posted on 12/02/2017 5:22:45 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: SkyPilot

There is a primary between now and the general election. Did you forget that?


95 posted on 12/02/2017 5:24:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TheStickman; CatOwner
Yeah, I read that thread.

Catowner said this:

So is raising the standard deductions while eliminating the exemptions. Also, maxing out property tax deductions at $10,000 is almost pointless for couples filing jointly. What other deductions are going to get them over the $24,000 standard deduction for joint filing?

And he/she is correct.

That isn't a "win" for many of us.

96 posted on 12/02/2017 5:24:30 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Nextrush

Have you read the bill to know what is included in it?


97 posted on 12/02/2017 5:25:05 AM PST by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: SkyPilot
"Do you possess the capacity to read?" Too funny. No, I cannot read. I cannot think for myself. Must wait for orders from Trump... /s I read your post. Hence the If you ain't about MAGA you on the wrong side. Bye now, looking forward to your eventual opus.
98 posted on 12/02/2017 5:25:26 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: SkyPilot

which of your deductions are you whining about??


99 posted on 12/02/2017 5:25:59 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America
of course MAGA has nothing to do with this

Really?

A centerpiece of MAGA was middle class tax relief.

For millions of us, this is a tax increase.

100 posted on 12/02/2017 5:26:04 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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