True.
Don't forget the Goldman Sachs snakes (Mnuchin and Cohn) also.
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Posted on 12/02/2017 1:37:52 AM PST by Kaslin
When this tax plan goes through, we lose $10,000 of deductions, mostly property tax and medical.
I am retired on Social Security and my wife works a job where she is getting paid 65% of her marketable value.
Thanks Mr. Trump.
“...rat’s a$$ whether this bill is helpful to me personally or not. ...lousy first step, but it IS a first step...”
This is also the position that I am taking. If this did not pass in some form the momentum for President Trump’s agenda would have fizzled completely and he would have been somewhat successfully branded as a failure by the enemedia which would have taken a serious toll on Trump’s presidency.
Well put; “we need this win in order to fight on”!!! (and I am a resident of New York State).
“Who said I was doing that?”
Free Republic as stated by it’s owner is a MAGA, Pro-Trump forum. If you no longer believe in MAGA...you can figure it out, maybe.
“Have you ever objected to prevailing opinions on this board?”
Irrelevant to the discussion. Try again.
“Have you ever objected to anything the Federal government had done or was trying to do to you?”
Sure have. That’s why I voted for Donald Trump to be our President. It’s also why I am thrilled with this tax cut bill. High state taxes will no longer be subsidized by Fedzilla. That’s a wonderful thing :)
Antibusiness is not a good point of view
Business makes the world go round
“...High state taxes will no longer be subsidized by Fedzilla...”
I agree and I live in New York State. If this “unmasks” Cuomo and the democrats’ high tax chokehold on our state even if I have to pay more (hopefully temporarily), it is worth it as a patriot.
The truth is the vast majority of Americans understand less about finances and economics than they do about geography. This ignorance is paramount for our federal leviathan’s continued operation. Arguing about specific cases or attempting to “educate” people is what the elites want—it keeps the hoi-poloi busy and has little or no real effect.
Most people are fine with being screwed as long as it’s their team doing the screwing. Until the people realize their are no teams, the show can go on. Welcome to the other side of the curtain.
“And furthermore, there are many Freepers on this board who have raised the same issues with this “tax cut” as I have.”
So? Just what does Obamacare have to do with this discussion? FWIW I was on Medicare Advantage, and my insurer simply cancelled my policy in response to Obamacare’s outrageous provisions, forcing me to seek new insurance. But I fixed my own problem and now I have an even better HC plan. And it’s the same with income taxes. Will there need to be adjustments, sure! Will some people have to figure out different mechanisms to resolve their personal tax circumstances? Yes. Is there a possibility of some changes in the RE market as a consequence of the new tax legislation? Possibly. But if we all sit around and pi$$ and moan about how each of us is adversely affected by this change, NOTHING GET’S DONE for us as a country. Furthermore as one legislator I saw remarked, there will be more changes to the tax code coming. But they won’t be coming if we manage to turn the Congress back over to the RATS for doing NOTHING!
Personally, I'd like to see less spending from the feds, but I guess some tax increases are needed (for now).
So only poor people have more than 2.2 children?
Yeah they will reinvest that money right back into the boards pocket.
It will not be into raises for their workers, better benefits or expansions to existing infrastructure.
I asked a simple question regarding your objection to people who raise counterpoints to legislation that adversely affects them (i.e. this tax increase on millions in the middle class). You accused me of being "selfish" - and I asked if those who were raped by ObamaCare and objected were also "selfish."
Really? You are unable to fathom that analogy?
Of course they will.
The bill was drafted by the corrupt, every-lying Congress,
led by the serial liars McConnell and the GOP.
Therefore, it is not really fair to blame Pres. Trump,
because the scum bags in Congress
(who deserve to be decimated
on the steps of the Capitol by the People for their
Treason, and coverup, and abuse of the IRS, etc. etc.)
did this on their own, and in part to hurt the President.
They always work to hurt the President the American
people chose in Nov. 2016.
Jt Tax Cmte forecasts tax bill will increase GDP “by about 0.8 percent on average over the 10-year budget window. That increase in income would increase revenues, relative to the conventional estimate of a loss of $1,414 billion..by $458 billion over that period.”— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram)
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Or, put another way the projected loss of $1.414 billion.......would be about the same dollar amount as ONE dark of the night air transport of unmarked bills to lran
I was never, ever a "Never Trumper." I didn't vote for Cruz, Rubio, or Jeb.
Trump will sign this tax abortion. It is 99.999% certain.
For me, that will be a betrayal of his promises - and yes, a betrayal of MAGA.
The man isn't Jesus Christ.
Will I still support him when and if we go to war? Will I still support him when and if he moves our embassy to Jerusalem? Will I still support him if he supports second amendment rights, or fights against abortion?
Yes.
Is this tax increase on millions of us a betrayal of MAGA?
It sure is.
So how in the heck will every Blue Stater manage to pick up and move if they can’t get a sale price large enough to pay off their mortgage? Who will buy their homes?
I’m sure red staters won’t mind the migration of blue staters. Lol!
Lol! I was thinking the exact same thing.
“This is also the position that I am taking. If this did not pass in some form the momentum for President Trump’s agenda would have fizzled completely and he would have been somewhat successfully branded as a failure by the enemedia which would have taken a serious toll on Trump’s presidency.”
I am completely at odds with what passes in the US Senate as “Republicans.” And I want to RIF virtually all of them. But it needs to be done so as to not loose the Republican “majority!” The idea that we have to play “political footsey” with the conglomeration of “shit balls” ( i.e. Corker, Flake and McConnell) and self-serving twits ( i.e. Murkowski and Collins) are anathemas to me, but they are the “$hitty cards we’re holding today. We have to root them out one by one and replace them with people who can work together for the good of ALL of the country.
True.
Don't forget the Goldman Sachs snakes (Mnuchin and Cohn) also.
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