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1 posted on 12/05/2017 9:55:33 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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New Crop of Democrats


2 posted on 12/05/2017 9:56:04 AM PST by butlerweave
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Time to raise those carbon taxes (again).


4 posted on 12/05/2017 9:57:50 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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As these guys face exposure of their lies, repudiation by legitimate scientists and the disgust of an person with common sense they get more shrill & increasingly desperate.


5 posted on 12/05/2017 9:58:40 AM PST by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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Using complex new modeling
The model the scientists used
Because the model only projects future impacts

And the models are always correct, even though they cannot predict next weeks weather.

6 posted on 12/05/2017 10:01:22 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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"Using complex, new modeling"

'Cause we discovered that the old stuff was complete crap...

8 posted on 12/05/2017 10:02:23 AM PST by Eagles6
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Hey Lawrence, pray tell, how would it “block” rainfall? If the Arctic were to melt, would that not put more moisture into the upper atmosphere, thereby producing more rain-bearing clouds and thus more rain? Do you models not show that the circulation pattern of the north Pacific are what prevent most rainfall from hitting the west coast south of Oregon?


9 posted on 12/05/2017 10:06:41 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Isn’t California the same state that has 2.3 million (2014) illegal aliens who exhale CO2, aliens who easily get driver’s licenses to drive vehicles with big carbon footprints?


12 posted on 12/05/2017 10:11:35 AM PST by Amendment10
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“There is lots of research to be done". “Hopefully we do it in time to allow people to plan for whatever may be coming.”

I thought it was "SETTLED SCIENCE?"

Silly me.

13 posted on 12/05/2017 10:14:38 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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Did you ever notice that the changes are always fairly drastic, always negative, and always within most reader’s lifetimes?

That last part is for effect, because they know people would be less likely to be scared into.... whatever it is that these people want you scared into... if it was centuries out.

But you’ll also notice, all the predictions of the last several generations failed to produce such drastic and negative results. That’s the pitfall of propaganda. Getting proved wrong if you don’t extend out your predictions long enough.

... and if you go back far enough, like the “New Ice Age” alarmists of many decades ago, by the time the people who make this propaganda are exposed, they are either dead, or no longer have a career to be threatened


14 posted on 12/05/2017 10:17:43 AM PST by z3n
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Using complex new modeling, the scientists have found that...

Anyone who is familiar with how models 'work', as far as deciding what is included and what is not included, along with subjective parameter choices and weights and other types of tuning and adjustments and algorithms and statistical legerdemain and fudge factors and opinions, as well as the potential for undiscovered coding errors to creep in from both custom and boilerplate code, and the ability of the modelers to make as many runs of the model as desired, throwing out results that do not provide the 'right answer', is aware that a better phrasing of the partial quote above would be: "using complex new modeling, we know that any desired result of the model can be achieved at the whim of the modelers..."

Other climate models have shown no 'skill' at predicting effects at a regional level, yet this one claims to do so.

Keep in mind also that scientists don't even have a proper handle on accurately modeling the influence of something as commonplace as clouds on the climate and its changes.

But... remember how complex modelling of financial markets prevented the great stock market crash of 2008 and all of the disruptions that it caused? No? Neither do I. And yet, the best modelling and risk management minds on the planet had been doing 'complex modelling' designed to help us avoid such financial risks.

Why would anyone with a sound mind believe that these scientists have figured it out correctly from their 'complex modelling'? How much tweaking of the model and various model initialization inputs and runs was required for them to come up with the 'right' (predetermined) answer? And how could it possibly be tested?

Properly-constructed models can indeed be used to inform and test hypotheses, within appropriate limits. However it would take an enormous leap of (unsubstantiated) faith to believe that the modelling reported here is fit for the purpose of "allowing people to plan for whatever may be coming."

16 posted on 12/05/2017 10:24:35 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Predicting drought in the state that contains Death Valley and the Mojave Desert. WOW, you are a genius!!


19 posted on 12/05/2017 10:33:04 AM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_and_the_Oobleck


21 posted on 12/05/2017 10:33:50 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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YAY!


22 posted on 12/05/2017 10:34:28 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Using complex new modeling,...

Because the old ones never proofed out...

23 posted on 12/05/2017 10:35:54 AM PST by pfflier
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Now I am STARTING to doubt the well-known FACT that AlGore invented the internet. Whoa is me!


26 posted on 12/05/2017 10:57:45 AM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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The existence of people outside the borders of California is causing a drought that will only affect California. That’s an interesting prediction.


29 posted on 12/05/2017 11:37:17 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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The existence of people outside the borders of California is causing a drought that will only affect California. That’s an interesting prediction.


30 posted on 12/05/2017 11:37:19 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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California’s water conservation has caused the drought. By not allowing citizens to keep their water running while brushing teeth, there has been a lack of evaporation which has prevented rain from falling.

My models say so


31 posted on 12/05/2017 11:40:55 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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How about a 50 cents a gallon tax on water to encourage conservation....Id rather the next governor, Gavin Newsome, pass that though. I want a good reason to rip him to all Brown-Newsome loving libs in my family.


32 posted on 12/05/2017 12:10:39 PM PST by Angels27
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In 20 or 30 a dought stricken California will be a Mexico problem since LaRaza will claim the southern half of the state...


34 posted on 12/05/2017 12:27:48 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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