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Frank Luntz Stunned by Alabama Focus Group
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | December 11, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/11/2017 1:45:27 PM PST by Kaslin

RUSH: Let’s go to the audio sound bites, the aforementioned Frank Luntz focus group in Alabama. This actually happened on Friday on HBO’s Vice News Tonight. It’s a show there. They had the pollster, Frank Luntz come in there. He’s the establishment Republican pollster and focus grouper. And they put together a group of Alabama voters to talk about the Senate election that is tomorrow. And during a discussion about support for Roy Moore, voters Scottie Porter, Chuck Moore, and Luntz had this little exchange.

PORTER: I’m not voting for him because I like him. I’m voting for him because I don’t want Doug Jones. But Roy Moore is entitled to the presumption of innocence in the law and in the Bible just like anybody else should be. They are only accusations. There have been no charges filed. All you have is a group of women that have come forward and said —

LUNTZ: How many? How many?

PORTER: Seven.

LUNTZ: More! How many women have to come forward before you say, “Wait a minute, where there’s smoke, there’s fire?”

MOORE: It’s a matter of legitimacy, not just how many.

MAN: Exactly.

MOORE: How many are actually not being paid or coerced to do that?

LUNTZ: How many of them do you think are being paid?

Why These Alabama Voters Are Sticking By Roy Moore

SEVERAL: All of them.

LUNTZ: All of them?

SEVERAL: All of them.

RUSH: Everybody in his focus group thinks all the women in the Roy Moore story are being paid, and they all say they’re voting for Moore. Some say they like Moore. Some say they don’t. Most of them say they’re not voting for a Democrat. They don’t want any part of a Democrat in there. They all say, “This happened 40 years ago. Why did they wait until an election to come forward?” This is the same point that I made. I told you I called the Trump campaign, when that Access Hollywood came out, the video. I’m not gonna tell you who I talked to. It wasn’t Trump.

But I called and I said, “Whatever you do, do not run from this. My sense is — and don’t doubt me — the American people, enough of them, are fed up with this kind of October Surprise or BS to affect their vote right before an election.” They’re getting offended by it, and they’re far less likely to fall for this. I was hell-bent on making that point, and that was just my instincts, because the Access Hollywood tape was 10 or 12 years ago, however old it was. And then I found out the Washington Post is who released it because NBC didn’t want to.

NBC held it, gave it to the Washington Post, and everybody involved knew this tape had existed for years and years and years and they wait for October to release this! And I told ’em, “You can handle it however you want to, but I’m telling you: Don’t be surprised when a lot of people don’t care. In fact, don’t be surprised when a lot of people are actually mad about this because of the way their votes are being manipulated.” Same thing here.

These people, the Frank Luntz focus group in Alabama said 40 years ago and we’re just now hearing from these women? And a lot of them knew that the yearbook had been forged and that Gloria Allred had yet to produce it. You know, take your average Washington establishmentarian, take them down to Alabama, talk to people that live there, and they’re flummoxed and stunned. They don’t believe it. They can’t believe that people in Alabama don’t think exactly like the media thinks or like the Washington establishment thinks. They’re just stunned.

Luntz was stunned with what he was hearing. How many women does it take? Don’t care. If none of them have any proof, what does it matter? Why wait 40 years to come forward? In other words, why aren’t we allowed to be suspicious of the women in this case, or in any case? But the media thinks once they say something about something, everybody else is required to agree with it and behave accordingly. We have one more here I think we have time for before the break, and again Scottie Porter, Jane Wade, and Rhonda Richardson. These are voters in Alabama talking to Luntz.

PORTER: Let’s be real. It was a different world. Forty years ago in Alabama, people could get married at 13 and 14 years old. My grandmother at 13 was married, at 15 had two children and a husband and a job. If Roy Moore was guilty, if he was at the mall hitting on this 14-year-old, 40 years ago in Alabama there’s a lot of mamas and daddies that’d be thrilled that their 14-year-old was getting hit on by a district attorney.

WADE: I dated an older man at 16. So we don’t really —

LUNTZ: How old was he?

WADE: Thirty-one. For all of us as a woman, I think we’ve pretty much all been in the situation where there’s been sexual harassment.

LUNTZ: I mean, think about what you’re saying. You’re calling all nine of those women liars. Nine women. When it happened to you, didn’t you want people to trust you?

WADE: I never told anybody.

LUNTZ: Is that good, either?

WADE: Even if I was gonna tell somebody, I would not have waited 38 years to tell it.

RUSH: Bingo. See? If I was gonna tell anybody, I wouldn’t have waited 38 years to do it, Luntz.


TOPICS: US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: roymoore; rushtranscript
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To: Kaslin

On election night, I was stunned by the stupidity of Frank Luntz.

Fool believed the exit polls and quite early claimed.....

Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.


21 posted on 12/11/2017 2:58:57 PM PST by Conserv
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To: Kaslin

Frank Luntz? ‘Southern man don’t need him ‘round anyhow...’


22 posted on 12/11/2017 3:06:01 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: RatRipper; All
"We folks in AL are always disparaged by the so-called intellectuals as stupid southerners. Truth is, we are one of the first states to shove the MSM/ elite/ political class BS right back in their faces. We are 100% correct not to believe their horse $h1+ any more. Now, they are going to have to earn credibility again, and it will take a long, long time for them to recover it."

Not just Alabama RR, NE elitist make fun of every state you can think of, I won't get into the details.

However, this Campaign is a game changer, think of this...

In the last 8 yrs, think of a progressive cause / concept that they wanted to become a law or cultural norm, for instance: Gay Marriage, Global Warming, The Abortion Issue, etc etc etc. Think of all the people that spoke out about these issues, even if it was with a donation to the opposite side. What happened to them? They were destroyed aka the guy from Mozilla for instance. Or you kept your mouth shut.

Judge Moore ( along with PDJT ) is the antithesis of silencing our side of the political debate which is totally a brown-shirt tactic. We are the Heretics in their eyes as we challenge their Heterodoxy and they can't stand it, in fact most times they will fold or go violent, they can't stand on the merits and frankly even middle America is realizing it and their gig is up soon.

This is a big blow to "PC" and all it's Cousins.

Maybe in the next couple of years, the likes of Ann Coulter can again return to a campus and debate lets say the likes of Van Jones mano-e-mano William F Buckley style without the disrupter's.

That would be bleeping amazing...

23 posted on 12/11/2017 3:11:41 PM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry of Men!....)
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To: dragnet2

Actually the folks in the focus group did not sound like clowns. Their answers and thoughts were thoughtful and valid


24 posted on 12/11/2017 3:23:27 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

I’m talking about Luntz’s 2016 election focus groups. What are you talking about?


25 posted on 12/11/2017 3:30:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Parley Baer

“Frank, you ignorant slut...”


26 posted on 12/11/2017 4:12:35 PM PST by Noumenon (Irony: Those who tell us we don't need a border wall whIle living in gated communities.)
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To: dragnet2

The one in Alabama that the article was about


27 posted on 12/11/2017 4:14:28 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dragnet2

The one in Alabama that the article was about

My brain is still on freeze....missed your caption on your pic

Mea culpa


28 posted on 12/11/2017 4:15:26 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: taildragger

I just wonder how violent the elites will be willing to become to maintain control. A large percentage of us regular folk are beyond fed up. If it stays on the current course, I see things getting very nasty. I hope President DJT succeeds in getting the “drop” on them.


29 posted on 12/11/2017 4:18:45 PM PST by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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To: Kaslin

I should care about what Francis Duntz says why?


30 posted on 12/11/2017 4:22:19 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: rdcbn

The interesting thing is that Luntz seems to think if Whites split on a candidate 60/40 and Blacks split 99/1, that must mean that the whites are voting out of racial solidarity.

Seems to me that there is a lot of diversity amongst Whites.


31 posted on 12/11/2017 4:25:01 PM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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Frank Luntz inappropriately touches kittens
32 posted on 12/11/2017 4:37:03 PM PST by llevrok (Swamp nothing! Give Washington DC an enema !)
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To: taildragger

I like your post


33 posted on 12/11/2017 4:55:11 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Kaslin
Does anyone remember the late 60's and early 70's ?

We had movies like 'The Graduate' and 'Shampoo' ... This wasn't really odd where I grew up.

14 and 15 year old girls were ... well let's just say I grew up real quick.

34 posted on 12/11/2017 7:28:57 PM PST by 11th_VA (Kudos to President Trump for denouncing ALL violence)
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To: Parley Baer

Frank believes the left’s negative stereotypes of Christians.
Christians really do forgive sinners. In this case they recognize justice. And a boat load of demo. activists accusing a man of sexual sin thirty years ago, does not equal Christian/Western justice.


35 posted on 12/12/2017 2:25:56 AM PST by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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