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House passes $1.5 trillion tax-cut plan
The Washington Times ^ | December 19, 2017 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 12/19/2017 11:53:10 AM PST by jazusamo

House Republicans passed their $1.5 trillion tax-cut package Tuesday afternoon, kicking the action over to the Senate as the GOP speeds toward swift passage of President Trump’s top legislative priority and the most significant rewrite of the tax code in three decades.

“Today, we’re delivering on our tax reform promise to the American people,” said Rep. Kevin Brady, the House’s top tax-writer. “For the first time in over three decades, we’re delivering a new tax code that provides more, fairer taxes, and bigger paychecks to Americans across the country.”

The House passed the plan on a 227-203 vote, and the Senate is expected to pass it later Tuesday.

The action will complete a once-unthinkable timeline to get a tax bill through Congress before Christmas, and comes less than two months after House Republicans released their initial legislative text of the tax bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; house; taxbill; taxcut; taxes; taxplan; trump; trumptaxcut; trumptaxcuts
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To: jazusamo
winning. Lower case winning but still a win.
121 posted on 12/19/2017 1:16:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TADSLOS

Why did you post that?


122 posted on 12/19/2017 1:17:24 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I do own a home on 32 acres.

When I lived in Seattle I owned between 1978 and 1997. A divorce finished that.

Between then and 2011 I rented, and saved a bundle. I paid $1600 a month for a five bedroom three bathroom home on a landscaped 1/4 acre lot in the Renton Highlands. Zillow valued the home at just under $500,000. Before that one I was in a Three bedroom tri-level on the Mercer Island scar, two blocks from Paul Allen’s house. Again, professionally landscaped yard. I paid $1400 a month for that one.

But when I decided to buy, I bought because it was the only way to live in - and exploit - the type of place I wanted to spend the rest of my life.

And it is paradise. And a couple of streams, deer hunting with no license needed, ultimate privacy, quiet, no traffic, no building permits required, etc.

We got a 15 year low interest loan. We don’t meet any itemized deduction threshold which brings an interesting freedom. We give at our church via cash since it is not deductible and we need no record of it. We don’t even think about the federal tax ramifications of stuff we do. Life is so simple.

And with the new tax rates and rules, a lot of folks will find themselves in this position, whether they pay more in taxes or not. You can get to really like the freedom.


123 posted on 12/19/2017 1:17:43 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: jazusamo

Where are Susan Collins, Comrade Juan McNuts, Linda Grahmnesty etc.?

How many are taking “run away!” orders from the Establishment?

I absolutely do not trust until the thing is signed. Lucy has pulled the ball away on absolutely everything so far.


124 posted on 12/19/2017 1:18:41 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (CW II: One side has over 8 TRILLION bullets and the other side can't decide which bathroom to use.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“The mortgage loan deduction limitation, frankly angers me”
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Are you aware that Canada does not have a mortgage deduction and their housing market didn’t collapse in 2007 and their Vancouver and Toronto real estate markets are so hot that they implemented a 15% “foreign buyers tax” and the markets are still on fire?


125 posted on 12/19/2017 1:20:58 PM PST by CreviceTool (A Good Samaritan with a handgun saved my life...)
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To: robroys woman

Out her (Eastern Iowa), renting a decent house is a bit more than buying one.

So, if I rented a modest house (2,200 square feet ranch with basement), it would be about $1,300. My mortgage is $1,100. And I will pay it off in less than ten years.

If you rent, that isn’t the case. You will be paying north of $1,600 to maybe $2,000 for that same house. Not a lot of rental properties, and zoning laws are restricting that even more.

There is a risk. If I move, I have to sell my house, but it is in a good area and is priced low enough that shouldn’t be an issue. The guys up the street paying $400K for a house worth half that are just walking away.


126 posted on 12/19/2017 1:22:01 PM PST by redgolum
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To: DoughtyOne

Homes won’t be kept up. The area will go down hill. There will be a lot of vacancies as people opt to stop paying for their homes since they are so far upside down, and then the housing market is flooded and drops even further.


I’ve been through a few downturns. The last one was the worst so far, but I think we’re on the cusp of an even worse one.

It’s interesting. I used to post in Seattlebubble.com, at the height of the last housing boom, that prices could drop as much as 20%. It sounded like crazy talk - even to me. But it is what I saw. And the funny thing is that looking back, we can only wish it had only been 20%.

But a funny thing happened. It just became the new normal. Nobody said “all the doom and gloomers were right!” Nope. They said, “what a great buying opportunity!” And of course, people who never knew anyone who lost their home suddenly had multiple friends walking away from their home, and maybe even they were themself.

And yet look at the seattle market now, just a few short years later. Hopefully this interest deduction change will at least put a pinhole in the balloon and people can start buying homes as a place to live rather than an investment.


127 posted on 12/19/2017 1:22:40 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

Thank you for relating your experience. I appreciate it.

I support what you are doing. I’m not sure it’s for everyone, but I’d enjoy it.

This new tax structure may help you quite a bit, with the new 25,200 deduction for couples who don’t itemize. (I believe that’s pretty close to dead on.)

Best wishes to you.


128 posted on 12/19/2017 1:23:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: CreviceTool

No I wasn’t. Thanks for the mention.

What is a Canadian’s tax exposure compared to ours in the U. S.?


129 posted on 12/19/2017 1:24:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: robroys woman

Time will tell. I’ve been known to be wrong before.

Thank you.


130 posted on 12/19/2017 1:26:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: nikos1121

The estate tax change won’t be retroactive. Was she worth more than $5m? If not, her estate will not pay any estate tax under current law.


131 posted on 12/19/2017 1:27:06 PM PST by KevinB (When you drink the water, remember the men or women who dug the well.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Canadian taxes are higher due to government health care, etc. But despite no interest deduction, their housing market keeps going and going:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/condos-and-climbing-prices-5-real-estate-trends-to-expect-in-2018-1.3725989


132 posted on 12/19/2017 1:30:57 PM PST by CreviceTool (A Good Samaritan with a handgun saved my life...)
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To: DoughtyOne

House must vote again, first vote a no go!


133 posted on 12/19/2017 1:31:14 PM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: blue state conservative

The Dems did it under JFK but they are not JFK Democrats any more. They are Socialists now and worse.


134 posted on 12/19/2017 1:32:05 PM PST by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: CreviceTool

Thank you for the mention and link.

I’ll check it out.


135 posted on 12/19/2017 1:32:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I hear you on the RINOs.

Susan and Linda have said they’ll vote for it, Juan is home in AZ and supposedly will fly back for the vote if needed but I don’t believe it for a second.

VP Pence canceled an overseas trip to be available if a tie breaking vote is needed


136 posted on 12/19/2017 1:33:21 PM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: Rome2000
The W-2 worker just got permanently ROBBED.

W 2 worker here. Mine will drop $2,790. I'm single and take the standard. Nothing fancy.

Still not addressing the real issue which is reform. Tax law is still a bloated out of control monster.

137 posted on 12/19/2017 1:33:58 PM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: QuigleyDU

I’m not sure what you are referencing.

The House approval of the $1.5 Trillion tax bill was not valid?


138 posted on 12/19/2017 1:34:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: jazusamo

Looks like this year is the last time I will itemize. Good by Tax Act who needs help with such a simple calculations? I had no idea so few itemized. Why do people need turbo tax when for most you just subtract $24,000k form your AGI (married) and go to the tax table? What’s so hard? Lame.


139 posted on 12/19/2017 1:36:57 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: caww

Exactly, 11 Republicans from high-state-income-tax states who were given permission by the GOP House leadership and by President Trump to vote NAY ... and RINO asshat Walter Jones of NC.


140 posted on 12/19/2017 1:36:59 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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