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California Today: State’s Homeless Population Drives National Increase
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 21, 2017 | By JENNIFER MEDINA

Posted on 12/21/2017 12:36:09 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: WayneS

114000 is NOT more than one-quarter of 544000. Not your fault. Idiot newspaper writers!


21 posted on 12/21/2017 1:17:07 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone

Okay, so 21% of the homeless from a state that has +/-10% of the total population. It’s still pathetic.


22 posted on 12/21/2017 1:19:05 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: NEMDF; DoughtyOne
Bingo!You win the day's prize to be determined later with this reality posting.

I wonder how many US citizens became homeless, because they cannot afford their rent anymore, but some illegals are now living in that housing, paid for by the taxpayers?

23 posted on 12/21/2017 1:21:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'm a little surprised at how few homeless people we actually have in this country. 544,000 out of about 325,000,000. That's only about 0.17% of the total population. I would have guessed it was higher than that.
24 posted on 12/21/2017 1:22:32 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: VanShuyten

I suspect in the near future, the Kali progressive elites will create “work and lifestyle training camps” in the desert for all of those still working paying taxes without the representation of the undocumented get.


25 posted on 12/21/2017 1:23:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“There’s a tale of different countries here: We’re seeing a real significant increase and much of the rest of the country is not. We’re all doing the same things, but here the rent is too damn high.

Love how this article spins it. We are not all doing the same thing. They want to be a sanctuary state and this is what they get-a third world country.

A friend of ours was talking to his nephew in Colorado who is a car insurance salesman. He said they are seeing 10,000 people a month leave California for Colorado alone. His insurance company is losing money trying to insure all these people moving into Colorado. No reporting on this.

Give another year or two and California will be like South America.

26 posted on 12/21/2017 1:25:56 PM PST by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“If I recall correctly, CA pays out 1/3 of all welfare.”

Welfare in California
34% Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California

But only …12% of the U.S. population resides here

How we compare
California is third among states in per-capita spending on welfare:

$179

New York leads the nation:

$256

Idaho is at the bottom:

$17

Excerpted, The San Diego Union-Tribune

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-welfare-capital-of-the-us-2012jul28-htmlstory.html


27 posted on 12/21/2017 1:36:21 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: HarleyD
The homeless are quite a jolly race.

Yesterday, outside of the grocery store, there was this guy in a wheelchair with a stub for a leg. As I walked past him he greeted me enthusiastically. I responded, "Hello my good man." He then gave me a fist bump which I cheerily returned.

As I continued on, I had the same amount of money in my pocket as I had before.

The moral of the story is this. The human race can live in harmony with the homeless race.

I look forward to a brighter future.

28 posted on 12/21/2017 1:37:41 PM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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I would be happy if our city shipped our homeless to Berkeley


29 posted on 12/21/2017 2:04:40 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage

California has turned into a third world country. The rich live in gated communities, the poor live on the streets and the middle class pay for it with high taxes.

In addition, the highways have traffic equivalent to Sao Paolo, they live next to the ocean but won’t desalinate water for their crops and the state and local governments are all corrupt.

Which leads me to state to call for a 10 year waiting period before new residents can vote in local and state elections. The libs from blue states move to red states and they bring the virus with them. Like parasites looking for its next host.

I know, EQ, how do you really feel about California?


30 posted on 12/21/2017 2:16:04 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (We're CNN. We're not lying, we're just incompetent!)
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To: Grampa Dave; NEMDF

I had not considered the housing angle like that.

NEMDF wins by a mile...

Thanks Grandpa Dave.


31 posted on 12/21/2017 2:18:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would like to know 2 numbers: the number of homeless in January 2009, and the number in January 2017....


32 posted on 12/21/2017 2:18:07 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: DoughtyOne

WOO HOO this made my day.

More winning.... :)


33 posted on 12/21/2017 2:38:21 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NIMBY leftists, combined with protection of illegal aliens, combined with outrageous leftist government = Lots of homeless.
Kalifornia is reapin what they have sewn.
My family is planning a trip in the West this year. Already told the Mrs. that we will NOT set foot in that state.


34 posted on 12/21/2017 2:40:47 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: NEMDF

“:^)


35 posted on 12/21/2017 3:10:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

need strict laws and enforcement. No crapping, sleeping, living, on the street.

No cooking in control areas (see recent fires)

Shopping cart stealing is a crime.

Bock sidewalk crime.

Camping on public grounds without permit crime

I support mental health clinics. Many homeless don’t take their meds and are unsafe on the street and nuisance to the rest of us. Yelling late at night, stripping in the middle of intersections etc. i have seen this.

The able bodied must work for welfare. i support short term housing. Then you work and pay rent for a train car or mimi apt.

Make be benign dictator and give me the laws I want and in 3 years the problem will be solved.


36 posted on 12/21/2017 3:23:34 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Over 2/3 of homeless are mentally ill, addicts/alcoholics or both or all the above.

But in days of olde, when common sense prevailed, these types were not “mainstreamed” into the lives and neighborhoods where ordinary citizens worked, lived and played.

Somewhere judges decided these folks deserved to be free, free, free. Roam as they will, use drugs, urinate and defecate in public, sleep in parks, beaches etc.

Bleeding heart know-nothings bemoan their plight. They think not enough is done for them.

Guess what? Plenty is done for them. California is the drug-alcohol treatment and recovery paradise of the entire world.

If you want to sober up, straighten up, live normally this is the place where the resources are available in abundance.

But these folks don’t want to live indoors, follow rules, quit using drugs and alcohol. Why should they, when nothing meaningful moves or compels them to do so.

Most of them have used up any sympathy from their own families, run the rounds of treatment, and still no changes, no recovery, no sobriety.

A recent survey for a major SoCal newspaper surveyed over 1,000 homeless living on the Santa Ana River near Anaheim Stadium. Of 1,000 surveyed, only 100 said they wanted resources for treatment/recovery.

The fact is they sleep outdoors, because they don’t want structured lives, with rules like curfew or substance testing.

So when somebody tries to lay a guilt trip on you, think twice.

In summary, law enforcement and prisons/jails use to house many of them. But voter iniatives have made drugs legal of misdemeanors, have let people out early from jail, and decided law abiding, hard working people had to accept these losers into their parks, neighborhoods, streets, beaches etc.

Blame your fellow voters, and liberal judges. Cops will agree that something should be done, but will claim they cannot do much.


37 posted on 12/21/2017 3:26:46 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: DoughtyOne
The majority of homeless in my area are white, 30-40’s, and habitual drug abusers who want every penny of any benefits they can lay their hands on to go to their drug habit. Things like cigarettes can be paid for by picking up recyclables or whatever isn't nailed down.

There's a guy for about $20 in meth who'll build you a trailer for your bike from a pair of stolen wheels with hubs and a walker. Wheelchairs make for great hubs & wheels.

There's an incredible underground economy designed just to rip off everyone else so they can get occasionally high. Meanwhile, shelter spaces remain vacant. They have rules, you know, and drug tests.

38 posted on 12/21/2017 7:14:43 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

I’m sure you pretty well nailed it there. And you know what, if we only knew the half of it.

I have a relative that lives in a very nice neighborhood. Homes are in the $750k up price range. About three block away, there’s an overpass and sure enough, the homeless have moved in and are now spotted roaming the neighborhood to steal anything not nailed down.

I’m rather surprised the neighbors haven’t banded up and delivered a message to the homeless. Get our or else.

Our police should be rousting these folks. If they get caught a third time, they should have to be placed in an Arpayo type facility, to hang out there until they get dried out and promise to re-enter society in earnest.

I do not believe people who have invested their life savings should have to put up with this sort of thing. Property values can’t help but be affected in short order.


39 posted on 12/21/2017 7:37:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Leep

Well, thankfully California has good weather


40 posted on 12/21/2017 9:58:30 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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