Posted on 01/06/2018 10:15:05 AM PST by NobleFree
“I can only assume that the majority of people who think Sessions is wrong on this must be making $ growing dope.”
Highly questionable, given the majority support for legalization. An even larger number support leaving the decision to the states.
More likely, a majority of people supporting Sessions are benefiting from prohibition in the form of $$$ seizures, federal funding, job security etc.
This confirms what I thought. Sessions is going to go after the smugglers taking it across state lines for sale.
I have not seen reliable surveys about voters’ positions on legalizing mj.
I can’t find with a few minutes’ searching the percentage of OR voters who were for legalizing mj, but there is a lot of voter regret now that people experience the results of legalization, and these are not people who are getting $ from the gov.
DMOTMC of course refuse to see the slightest downside to mj use or legalization; $ or habitual use may be involved in many; others are just naive fools.
(Devout Members Of The Marijuana Cult)
And DACA-ites. If they commit a crime, they’re OUT.
Since way more than 90% of the dope grown around here is not permiited, and thus not taxed, the state isn’t getting very much compared to if it was all legal.
Which it is not, in any state that legalizes it. The black market dope skyrockets, along with way overuse of dangerous chemicals, environment destruction, increased crime, and so on and so forth.
That pesky 10th Amendment puts federal prohibitionists on the wrong side.
Jail them all, our children, bothers and sisters, parents, cousins, friends, everyone.
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You mean everyone you know is smoking pot? You say put everyone in jail but not everyone, outside your family and friends, is smoking it. And no one will force your family and friends to smoke it should regulations increase - they have a choice. If they are emotionally dependent on it they can attend addiction groups to stop.
I think that legalized states are growing it for surrounding states. I read that CO had a dramatic rise in arrests due to illegal growing operation. Too many people see what they think of as easy money flowing and want in.
Dopers see everything through the lens of dope. Of course the ultimate goal is legalizing all drugs, that has been an intrinsic platform of the Libertarian Party since its inception.
Absolutely.
Thus dopers say it should all be legal so that wouldn’t happen. It would still happen since a lot of states don’t have conducive climates (SW OR has one of the very best) and growing totally in heated and lighted greenhouses is much more expensive. Plus illegal grow ops make more $ since no licensing and permit fees, no taxes, and they can uses prohibited chemicals.
Here in OR all legal dope has to be tested in a lab and if too many or any prohibited chemicals, it cannot be sold in the state licensed outlets.
Last year, 80% of all the legal dope tested in the lab failed the test. So of course illegal growers don’t want to go through that hassle, expense and risk that their product is deemed too toxic to sell.
Another fanasty argument put up by DMOTMC - that anyone having one joint or little baggie of dope in their possession is put in prison.
Nonsense.
Trump ran on MAGA. Trump was elected on MAGA. Going after pot in states where voters exercised the will to legalize it is not MAGA.
That's my problem with all of this.
So that excuses fedgov violating the Tenth Amendment?
If you got a ping to this thread from the group, you’re on the list. Sounds like they recognize the problem in the southern counties. I could be crazy, but I’ll bet fishing organizations like Trout Unlimited could get the governor’s ear re: your local problems. Kitzhaber would probably been all over it.
I’m in Wa state. Retail prices are low so there’s little black market. In Ca they’ve taxed the crap out of it plus allow home growing. No idea what’s going on in Co beyond ample reports of tax revenue well beyond expectations. Same in Nv.
However, it doesn’t matter what tax revenue is realized, it’s a way for the feds to apply pressure to legal weed states which, unsurprisingly, also are very pro Illegal Alien.
I hoped you would see the hypocritical sarcasm in my rant.
They could well be your family and friends too, medical and recreational use, we are all affected by marijuana use, even if you and I don’t.
My point was that marijuana is so pervasive in our society that full federal enforcement would be insane, not just stupid, insane. And, we taxpayers would have to foot the bill.
Marijuana is less an addiction than a lifestyle. Sure there are those that will abuse anything and they need to see that and change their ways. But very few marijuana users see it as a problem.
Most see it as a solution to medical and emotional needs.
Lock them up??????
Even possession of small amounts is a violation of federal law.
And, any conviction of any amount of marijuana and federal law prohibits you from possessing firearms.
Firearms are being confiscated now in Hawaii for any state legal medical marijuana users.
What do you think of that?
This is an absolute must. Let's move on to the real crimes.
Corporate farming of marijuana has brought the price down.
However when that price gets jacked up by state taxes, black market cannibis is again competitive.
CA looks to gain a billion dollars a year in NEW state tax revenue. Think that will bring the hogs to the trough?
That’s not at all the case here in the Tri-Cities, where I know you’ve lived in the past. Why not come on back?
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