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House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Privacy Limits
NY Times ^ | 01/11/2018 | CHARLIE SAVAGE, EILEEN SULLIVAN and NICHOLAS FANDOS

Posted on 01/11/2018 9:03:20 AM PST by GIdget2004

A yearslong effort by a bipartisan group of lawmakers to impose significant new privacy limits on the National Security Agency’s warrantless surveillance program fell short on Thursday, as the House of Representatives voted to extend the legal basis for that program by six years with only minimal changes.

The vote, 256 to 164, centered on an expiring law, Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, which permits the government collect without a warrant from American firms, like Google and AT&T, the emails and other communications of foreigners abroad — even when they are talking to Americans.

Before approving the extension of the law, the House voted 233 to 183 to reject an amendment that proposed a series of overhauls. Among them was a requirement that officials get warrants in most cases before hunting for and reading emails and other messages of Americans swept up under the program.

The legislation still has to go through the Senate, where fewer lawmakers appear to favor major changes to spying laws, and so the House vote is likely the effective end of a debate over 21st-ccentury surveillance technology and privacy rights that broke out in 2013 following the leaks by the intelligence contractor Edward J. Snowden.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fisa; surveillance
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1 posted on 01/11/2018 9:03:20 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
Democrats. Republicans. GWB. Obama. Trump. Doesn't matter.

Apparently, none will ever do anything to end the Big Government, unconstitutional surveillance of our web searches, text messages, social media, financial transactions, etc.

2 posted on 01/11/2018 9:06:54 AM PST by gdani (I disowned the GOP before disowning them was cool....)
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To: GIdget2004

Fourth Amendment, we hardly knew ye...


3 posted on 01/11/2018 9:07:44 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: gdani

Another sell out. WHO exactly in the District of Corruption, other than Rand Paul on this surviellance thing, is looking out for WE THE PEOPLE?


4 posted on 01/11/2018 9:10:16 AM PST by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: GIdget2004

Tyranny, full steam ahead!


5 posted on 01/11/2018 9:12:57 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Cheerio

“WHO exactly in the District of Corruption, other than Rand Paul on this surviellance thing, is looking out for WE THE PEOPLE?”

Sen Paul says he may fillibuster. But he’ll probably be all alone.


6 posted on 01/11/2018 9:14:13 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
Dear George W. Bush,

For giving us the PATRIOT Act and everything that came from it...

F--- you, you dry drunk idiot.

7 posted on 01/11/2018 9:15:12 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (Liberalism, as with all else evil, can never create. It can only corrupt.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

It had quite a bit of support on here. I got told “If you aren’t doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about”.


8 posted on 01/11/2018 9:18:11 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: GIdget2004; All

Unconstitutional, *LIED* to their FACES, the whole reason for ‘12mo of Meuller’ and the (R)N(C) does its typical: jack SHIT.

Man, ‘18 going to be REAL interesting.


9 posted on 01/11/2018 9:20:11 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Dear George W. Bush,

For giving us the PATRIOT Act and everything that came from it...

F--- you, you dry drunk idiot.

Well said. And, as always, when it really matters, the Tyranny comes from whatever face of the Uniparty necessary.

The GOP is every bit as capable—and ready and willing—to sell us down the river as the Democrats are. Just absolutely spitting on our Unalienable Rights. Never forget that we live under Uniparty Swamp...

10 posted on 01/11/2018 9:20:39 AM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: RedStateRocker

Then his supporters were backing a traitor of everything the Bill of Rights stands for.


11 posted on 01/11/2018 9:21:32 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (Liberalism, as with all else evil, can never create. It can only corrupt.)
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To: GIdget2004

It’s up to Rand Paul and a couple other Patriots in the Senate
to stop this illegal, warrant less spying.


12 posted on 01/11/2018 9:22:30 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: tennmountainman

Hopefully Paul can convene PT to change the domestic side of this. PT seems to be leaning that way.


13 posted on 01/11/2018 9:35:12 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: cowboyusa
Convince.
14 posted on 01/11/2018 9:36:02 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: GIdget2004

This is not good. Dayum.


15 posted on 01/11/2018 9:43:52 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Cheerio
Another sell out. WHO exactly in the District of Corruption, other than Rand Paul on this surviellance thing, is looking out for WE THE PEOPLE?

No one. The police state always advances. It never retreats. Liberties once lost are seldom, if ever regained.

16 posted on 01/11/2018 9:52:59 AM PST by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: GIdget2004

I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

I’m elected electric spy
I’m protected electric eye


17 posted on 01/11/2018 9:55:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: GIdget2004

let’s hope hope Rand prevails on this in the senate.


18 posted on 01/11/2018 10:07:20 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: Cheerio
One other senator (a Democrat) and Justin Amash are fighting the uphill battle for the Fourth Amendment.

(You'll see some other familiar names in the tweets I linked to above.)

19 posted on 01/11/2018 10:12:27 AM PST by logician2u
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Yeah, but we had a Republican president! and we’d just been attacked! If you weren’t with GWB you were with the terrorists.


20 posted on 01/11/2018 10:19:01 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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