'Bout damned time some heads rolled.
1 posted on
01/16/2018 12:33:11 PM PST by
oh8eleven
To: oh8eleven
The guy is obviously a no-integrity bum. He should be kicked-out this afternoon.
2 posted on
01/16/2018 12:34:02 PM PST by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: oh8eleven
This old Army guy knows just about nothing about the Navy but it’s easy to see why questions would be asked about incidents like those collisions.I just don’t know how far up the chain of command such questions might go.
To: oh8eleven
will submit his resignation ahead of a formal recommendation that he be relieved of commandThat alone is reason for him to be relieved.
4 posted on
01/16/2018 12:38:07 PM PST by
Jim Noble
(Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
To: rlmorel; TXnMA
To: oh8eleven
It is my understanding that untrained Officers were put in charge of steering those ships.
If so, theyll probably have to dig some Admirals out of retirement and reduce their retirements.
7 posted on
01/16/2018 12:42:55 PM PST by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: oh8eleven
You mean he hasn’t already resigned?
8 posted on
01/16/2018 12:43:10 PM PST by
WayneS
(An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
To: oh8eleven
Was this admiral responsible for assigning ships captains and deck officers or was that the responsibility of higher ups. If it was his responsibility, was he subject to any pressures to assign certain percentages of certain protected groups?
9 posted on
01/16/2018 12:49:03 PM PST by
House Atreides
(BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
To: oh8eleven
He’ll be going out at the top of his game. Our Pacific Navy probably leads all others in sensitivity training, combatting microaggressions, intersectional seminars, and lactation rooms.
To: oh8eleven
What is interesting is this guy's job title "Commander Naval Surface Forces/Naval Surface Force, U.S. Pacific Fleet."
We have almost forgotten that we have a Navy and that it's mission is sea power. The Atlantic and Pacific are very different places, but if you forget that you are operating at sea, then you can save money by combining the Atlantic and Pacific and one guy can cover all the training and support for most of the world. It's sort of like having a unitary governor for the States of NY and California = come to think of it...
Once you have lost site of the fact that you are talking about two different huge oceans, finer details like not playing bumper cars with billion dollar warships get overlooked. Professionalism bans M/F hanky panky while tolerance turns a blind eye to any other kind of hanky panky.
To: oh8eleven
Seems that they had to work their way up deliberately. After multiple collisions and loss of life, I could see no way that he would survive in the position. Like you I thought it was a little slow in coming, but those of us who have or would have been held accountable in our careers could see no other ending.
15 posted on
01/16/2018 1:12:42 PM PST by
jimfree
(My17 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
To: oh8eleven
24 posted on
01/16/2018 1:24:39 PM PST by
M Kehoe
To: All
I noticed they changed the headline from -
"Navy officer to step down after summer of deadly ship crashes." to ...
"Summer of deadly ship crashes destroys a Navy officers career."
Gheeze, talk about insensitive. I'll bet the seven dead sailors would take his early retirement.
28 posted on
01/16/2018 1:40:36 PM PST by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: oh8eleven
Why stop at the Force commander, go to the top. Fire the CNO! Hell, fire Trump, he’s the CinC. I’m being sarcastic here because this whole thing is a farce. The 3-star never even met the captains of the ships and didn’t assign them. The leadership of the ships involved were derelict of course, but going above the Squadron level is sheer bullshit as far as I am concerned.
33 posted on
01/16/2018 6:51:13 PM PST by
New Jersey Realist
( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
To: oh8eleven
It's probably NOT THE NAVY'S FAULT.
Read this:
A new GPS spoofing technology could be used to control military ships and drones
By Brandon Morse, Aug 23, 2017
New cyberwarfare technology may be emerging that allows a malicious operator to spoof a GPS system, sending the craft relying on off course without the crews knowledge. Experts wonder if it was used in the South China Sea with the recent collision of the USS John S McCain and an oil tanker.
According to New Scientist, on July 22, the U.S. Maritime Administration filed what seemed like an innocuous report from a ships captain off the Russian port of Novorossiysk in Russias Black Sea. According to the captain, his GPS had placed his ship at the Gelendzhik Airport 32 kilometers inland.
The captain checked his GPS for errors, then contacted other captains to see if they had the same problems. The captain discovered that 20 vessels had been affected the same way. All GPS systems show them sitting at the same airport.
The Maritime Administration issued warnings of the GPS interference despite not being able to confirm the story.
The New Scientist reported that interference with satellite signals being jammed was always the largest problem for GPS. GPS signals can be muddled or masked by white noise. Signal interference is easily recognizable, and alarms are supposed to sound to alert the crew when this happens.
However, a spoofed GPS signal is much harder to detect. A false signal from a ground station can confuse the satellite receivers, giving the ships GPS the impression its somewhere its not.
Jamming just causes the receiver to die, spoofing causes the receiver to lie, David Last, former president of the UKs Royal Institute of Navigation told New Scientist.
Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon ( 0:53 )
Autonomy and robotics expert Todd Humphreys at the University of Texas in Austin had conducted attack experiments using the same technology in the past. Humphreys said the signs of an attack during the Black Sea incident were the same as the results he had gotten during his experiments.
The receivers behavior in the Black Sea incident was much like during the controlled attacks my team conducted, Humphreys said.
Humphreys suggested that this might represent Russia experimenting with a new type of cyberwarfare technology. The New Scientist reported that the technology had first been seen in Moscow, centered near the Kremlin.
According to Humphreys, the satellite receivers on peoples phones in Moscow would malfunction. Gamers playing the Pokemon GO game on their phones discovered the extent of the alleged GPS spoofing attacks emanating from the Kremlin.
Humphreys told the New Scientist that this technology isnt very hard to build. In 2008, it required considerable technological expertise available only to governments. Humphreys said anyone with enough technical knowledge could now piece together a GPS spoofing device from commercial hardware and software downloaded from the internet.
Humphreys said this could help any tech-savvy person cause chaos with the GPS spoofing technology due to its easy construction.
It affects safety-of-life operations over a large area, he said. In congested waters with poor weather, such as the English Channel, it would likely cause great confusion, and probably collisions.
Could this technology have been used against U.S. warships ?
Both the U.S. Navy and intelligence experts began to consider the idea of a cyberattack as the potential cause of an oil tankers collision with the USS John S McCain in the South China Sea on Monday. In conjunction with the collision of the USS Fitzgerald and a crate ship that happened just two months prior in the sea of Japan, it seem like less of a coincidence.
There has been no confirmation that the John S McCain and Fitzgerald events were cyberattacks. However, experts have strongly begun to consider the idea that the technology seen in Russia is now being used in China.
Trade routes in the South China Sea are highly lucrative and highly contested. Beijing believes the trade routes which see some $5 trillion a year through its waters belong to China. However, Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam disagree. While all the countries use these trade routes to ferry goods, they rely on the U.S. to keep the trade routes open.
The John S McCain was a warship used for the Freedom of Navigation Operations in the South China Sea. The purpose of the operations is to challenge Chinas claim over the South China Sea trade routes. The warship was on its way back from navigating just 12 miles off Chinas Spratly Islands in the most unambiguous challenge to Chinas claim of ownership of the trade waters yet.
Its curious to some that a crew with a heightened alert status, fresh off a mission that defied a major national power, would not notice, or easily avoid a 600-foot Liberian oil tanker.
36 posted on
01/17/2018 3:17:09 AM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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