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'Bout damned time some heads rolled.
1 posted on 01/16/2018 12:33:11 PM PST by oh8eleven
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To: oh8eleven

The guy is obviously a no-integrity bum. He should be kicked-out this afternoon.


2 posted on 01/16/2018 12:34:02 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: oh8eleven

This old Army guy knows just about nothing about the Navy but it’s easy to see why questions would be asked about incidents like those collisions.I just don’t know how far up the chain of command such questions might go.


3 posted on 01/16/2018 12:36:08 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: oh8eleven
will submit his resignation ahead of a formal recommendation that he be relieved of command

That alone is reason for him to be relieved.

4 posted on 01/16/2018 12:38:07 PM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: rlmorel; TXnMA

ping.


6 posted on 01/16/2018 12:41:28 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: oh8eleven

It is my understanding that untrained Officers were put in charge of steering those ships.

If so, they’ll probably have to dig some Admirals out of retirement and reduce their retirements.


7 posted on 01/16/2018 12:42:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: oh8eleven

You mean he hasn’t already resigned?


8 posted on 01/16/2018 12:43:10 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: oh8eleven

Was this admiral responsible for assigning ship’s captains and deck officers or was that the responsibility of “higher ups”. If it was his responsibility, was he subject to any pressures to assign certain percentages of certain “protected” groups?


9 posted on 01/16/2018 12:49:03 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: oh8eleven

He’ll be going out at the top of his game. Our Pacific Navy probably leads all others in sensitivity training, combatting microaggressions, intersectional seminars, and lactation rooms.


11 posted on 01/16/2018 12:52:07 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: oh8eleven
What is interesting is this guy's job title "Commander Naval Surface Forces/Naval Surface Force, U.S. Pacific Fleet."

We have almost forgotten that we have a Navy and that it's mission is sea power. The Atlantic and Pacific are very different places, but if you forget that you are operating at sea, then you can save money by combining the Atlantic and Pacific and one guy can cover all the training and support for most of the world. It's sort of like having a unitary governor for the States of NY and California = come to think of it...

Once you have lost site of the fact that you are talking about two different huge oceans, finer details like not playing bumper cars with billion dollar warships get overlooked. Professionalism bans M/F hanky panky while tolerance turns a blind eye to any other kind of hanky panky.

12 posted on 01/16/2018 1:02:42 PM PST by AndyJackson
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Seems that they had to work their way up deliberately. After multiple collisions and loss of life, I could see no way that he would survive in the position. Like you I thought it was a little slow in coming, but those of us who have or would have been held accountable in our careers could see no other ending.


15 posted on 01/16/2018 1:12:42 PM PST by jimfree (My17 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: oh8eleven

Bttt.

5.56mm


24 posted on 01/16/2018 1:24:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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I noticed they changed the headline from -
   "Navy officer to step down after summer of deadly ship crashes." to ...
   "Summer of deadly ship crashes destroys a Navy officer’s career."
Gheeze, talk about insensitive. I'll bet the seven dead sailors would take his early retirement.
28 posted on 01/16/2018 1:40:36 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Why stop at the Force commander, go to the top. Fire the CNO! Hell, fire Trump, he’s the CinC. I’m being sarcastic here because this whole thing is a farce. The 3-star never even met the captains of the ships and didn’t assign them. The leadership of the ships involved were derelict of course, but going above the Squadron level is sheer bullshit as far as I am concerned.


33 posted on 01/16/2018 6:51:13 PM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: oh8eleven
It's probably NOT THE NAVY'S FAULT.

Read this:
36 posted on 01/17/2018 3:17:09 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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