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To: Red Badger

Was this an issue of his safety? I assume so because it isn’t like Trump to waste resources just to display power. He is sufficiently powerful and confident in it.


16 posted on 01/25/2018 12:54:50 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: The Westerner

The Secret Service runs all this kind of stuff.....................


20 posted on 01/25/2018 12:57:11 PM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: The Westerner
I assume so because it isn’t like Trump to waste resources just to display power.

Can you think of any place where there is a greater concentration of men with both resources and means who might want to harm the president? Remember Justice Scalia.
25 posted on 01/25/2018 1:00:03 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: The Westerner; Dr. Sivana

“Was this an issue of his safety?”

Trump wants to display a show of force to give credence to stories about the FBI, DOJ, deep state... plot to harm him physically. Subtil yet very convincing message.
Trump is a master communicator.


49 posted on 01/25/2018 1:21:04 PM PST by miniTAX (a)
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To: The Westerner
Yeah it wans’t for show - it was to confuse any potential snipers. They do the same when Trump rides in a caravan - no one knows what vehicle he's in.

But it's still a cool idea that it was for show and drama...

63 posted on 01/25/2018 1:36:50 PM PST by GOPJ ( Intel bad actors panicked Trump would find out what they've been doing last 15 years. Attkisson)
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To: The Westerner

I once saw Bush 41 arrive by helicopter once. It was 10 aircraft in all...two identical formations, with the large marine helicopter in the middle, and as it landed, 4 attack helicopters facing the four points of the compass, along with it, to provide cover. I think there were two setups, so observers couldn’t be sure which aircraft POTUS was in.


86 posted on 01/25/2018 2:27:27 PM PST by lacrew
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To: The Westerner
This is far from new. They use a group of Marine operated helicopters on a variety of Presidential trips when there is reason to prefer the helos to a motorcade. I saw a similar grouping fly President George W. Bush near the Rocky Mtns. in 2005. It was quite exciting to see them swoop over a mountain pass, and I was able to view them (from a distance) landing and later taking off at the destination. There were 5 on that trip, but according to Wiki the Marine helo unit for the POTUS and VP is quite a bit larger:

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[WIKIPEDIA]Marine One is sometimes the preferred alternative to motorcades, which can be expensive and logistically difficult. The controlled environment of a helicopter is also felt to add a safety factor. Marine One is also used to transport senior Cabinet staff and foreign dignitaries. HMX-1 operates a total of 35 helicopters of four different types as of 2009.[17]

More than 800 Marines supervise the operation of the Marine One fleet, which is based in MCAF Quantico, Virginia, with an additional operating location at Naval Support Facility Anacostia in the District of Columbia, but is more often seen in action on the South Lawn of the White House or at Joint Base Andrews Naval Air Facility in Maryland. At Andrews, it is sometimes used to connect to Air Force One for longer journeys. Marine One is met on the ground by at least one Marine in full dress uniform (most often two, with one acting as an armed guard). According to a story told by Bruce Babbitt, President Clinton, in his final days of office, while flying over and landing in a remote area near the Grand Canyon, found a Marine waiting on the rock ready to salute him.[18] Marine aviators flying Marine One do not wear regular flight suits during flights, but rather the Marine Blue Dress Charlie/Delta uniform.

As a security measure, Marine One always flies in a group of as many as five identical helicopters. One helicopter carries the President, while the others serve as decoys. Upon take-off these helicopters shift in formation to obscure the location of the President. This has been referred to as a presidential shell game.[19] Marine One is also equipped with standard military anti-missile countermeasures such as flares to counter heat-seeking missiles and chaff to counter radar-guided missiles, as well as AN/ALQ-144A infrared countermeasures.[20][21][22] To add to the security of Marine One, every member of HMX-1 is required to pass a Yankee White background check before touching any of the helicopters used for presidential travel.[23]

Marine One is transported via C-17 Globemaster or C-5 Galaxy military transport planes (as is the president's limousine) wherever the President travels, within the US as well as overseas.[17] At a presidential inauguration, the Marines offer the outgoing President a final flight from the Capitol to Joint Base Andrews.

93 posted on 01/25/2018 2:47:53 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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