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To: lodi90
I believe this is untrue.

If you go back and read the 99 page memo from the ODNI on the FISA Court (FISC) finding that was declassified in March and testified about publicly by Mike Rogers and DNI Coates, there are two tidbits that are going to make things very uncomfortable for Zero, who appears to have been fully engaged.

1) Rogers' compliance officer at NSA reported to the FISC that there were very high levels of queries concerning Americans against the NSA database via so-called "about queries" in 2015 and 2016.

The NSA reported to the FISC that as many as 85% of queries made against Americans during this time were "improper" (read: illegal.)

Why illegal? Well after reporting the queries to FISC, Rogers and his compliance officer asked the FISC to shutdown the program, until NSA could come up with a way of blocking further improprieties, and the FISC concurred. FISC would not have been willing to do that if these queries were simply "mistakes" or "overreaches."

Think what that means: a Federal Court at the Appeals level whose members are appointed directly by the Chief Justice of the United States found abuses so egregious coming from Justice Dept and NSC that they actually ordered their access to NSA material shutdown in October, 2016.

This is all public, declassified material, and it's bad enough. But here is also a tantalizing rumor: Nunes memo is believed to contain references to 0bama's PDB. In other words, the pResident was briefed daily on these illegal accesses.

2) Also in open source, not my imagination or rumors: In the declassified FISC finding, we discover that after learning of the illegal accesses in 2015-2016 NSA went further back, and discovered that the level of activity for the period going all the way back to 2012 was roughly the same.

From these two points, two conclusions:
1) DOJ/FBI/NSC/WH will not be able to claim "we did this because: Russia." The illegalities almost certainly mean 0bama was not just spying on Trump, but on ALL of the Republicans. And, even if the target was Trump alone, FBI had no Russia investigation going in 2015.

2) Because the level of activity was actually discovered to be the same from 2012-2016, it is a near certainty that 0bama was spying on Romney during his presidential run as well.

Those time periods encompass large changes in WH personnel, but the continuity of the "improper about queries" spans the period before Zero's second term.

Will he be an "unindicted co-conspirator?" We have some grounds for hope.

53 posted on 01/30/2018 3:21:00 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

“DOJ/FBI/NSC/WH will not be able to claim “we did this because: Russia.” The illegalities almost certainly mean 0bama was not just spying on Trump, but on ALL of the Republicans. And, even if the target was Trump alone, FBI had no Russia investigation going in 2015. “

Great post. I thought I was paying attention. With the early IRS abuse, I have no doubt the O’muslim treason regime was using the various alphabet groups as a tool against their enemies. They didn’t need any so called FISA warrants either.


57 posted on 01/30/2018 3:41:31 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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