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To: RoosterRedux

I was not all that impressed with the contents of the memo, but then, I’ve been here and also reading Sundance every day for the past two years, so I don’t know what MORE I was expecting.

That the forces of evil were mobilizing in October 2016 is no surprise.

I’m much more interested in what’s not in the memo, which is what they were up to in 2015 and early 2016, when the situation was still fluid. I’m also quite interested in how established the pattern of FISA abuse was and when it started.

This all goes back, IMO, to the Bush decision to fight domestic Islamic terrorism using the legal system, as if there were a few criminals among a large group of “new Americans” instead of following the FDR precedent of isolating all of them first while we fought the war overseas and sorting them out later.

This decision made a secret police and secret courts necessary, and, as any student of history knows, once you have secret police and secret courts, they take on a life of their own.


17 posted on 02/04/2018 5:32:20 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Jim Noble

I suspect that part of the reason the FBI was so upset about memo being released is that they know that their mistakes are par for the course. So, this collection of bad actors is about on par with those involved with FISA warrants for years. The FISA system is probably routinely abused.


20 posted on 02/04/2018 5:41:07 AM PST by Rumierules
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To: Jim Noble

Go back further than that
Maxine Waters is so stupid she bragged about this in 2013
Even Maxine knew but everyone ignored her like a crazy aunt
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/maxine-waters-obama-has-put-in-place-secret-database-with-everything-on-everyone-video/


25 posted on 02/04/2018 5:52:21 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Jim Noble

It is a start, Jim. The dam has developed a leak, and now the erosion can commence.

In each state, like-minded folks have got to start banding together and pushing their GOP state parties toward Trump and away from the Uni-Party.

Here in the second district, we need to get rid of that foul-mouthed liberal Anne Kuster.

The battle at the DC level is starting, but the war is going to be fought and won in the states! The question is, how do we do it?


27 posted on 02/04/2018 6:16:34 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build KateÂ’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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