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Trump mulling 'red flag' orders to remove guns from those found to be a risk: report
The Hill ^ | 02/24/18 | Max Greenwood

Posted on 02/24/2018 6:11:59 PM PST by Simon Green

The White House is weighing a plan to use "red flag laws" to confiscate guns from people deemed too dangerous to possess them, according to a Bloomberg report.

The laws — extreme risk protection orders — allow authorities to temporarily take firearms away from people that judges have determined to be a danger to themselves and others. Five states already have such laws in place.

According to Bloomberg, the White House has been looking at an Indiana version of the law.

The Trump administration is considering a plan to encourage other states to enact the laws. One way the administration could do that is by tying federal grant money to the implementation of such laws as a reward.

The red flag laws are among several options reportedly being considered by the White House to curb gun violence. Trump and other politicians have faced pressure in recent days to enact new gun control measures after a deadly shooting at a South Florida high school.

That attack left 17 people dead and 14 others injured. The suspect, 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz, has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder.

Trump voiced support for gun rights during his 2016 presidential campaign. But he signaled a possible shift on the issue this week, when he called for strengthening background checks for gun buyers and raising the minimum age for purchasing firearms from 18 to 21. The powerful National Rifle Association opposes changing age restrictions.

But he has also proposed arming trained teachers and doing away with gun-free zones around school campuses — proposals that many Democrats consider non-starters in the debate over gun control.

White House deputy press secretary Raj Shah told reporters at a press briefing on Friday that the administration was examining red flag laws.

"I think some states have had these red flag laws, for example, that remove firearms after you go to a judge for potentially dangerous individuals," he said. "That’s something that’s being done right now in a variety of states, right?"

"They have due process rights for these individuals. It seems to be working in certain areas. That’s something that we’re looking at and other places we’re looking at."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: backwoods-engineer

Neither does every NRA member. But some where in the back of their brains, they understand freedom and do unto others.


61 posted on 02/24/2018 7:41:18 PM PST by lizma2
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To: ripnbang

The poster had a crush on the deer.


62 posted on 02/24/2018 7:42:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Conservatism is not.”

YET. Don’t underestimates the progressives ability to coerce and destroy. We have been in their crosshairs since Woodrow Wilson.


63 posted on 02/24/2018 7:52:41 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Simon Green

Alrighty then........but let me know when “we’re looking at” that damn FBI and that incompetent Sheriff and school administrators that were responsible for the deaths of those 17 innocent Americans. Until then, nothing matters.

Oh, as for being “a threat to themselves or others”, how about going after the damn lying fake media. Sue them, arrest them, lock them up and throw away the key. I am sick of these ba$tards lies, lies and nothing but more damn lies. It is the media that has put our entire country at risk.


64 posted on 02/24/2018 8:01:48 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: Paladin2

Well, first he needs to wake up from his coma.


65 posted on 02/24/2018 8:03:51 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: Simon Green

When are the unnamed sources and rumor type crap from lefty sources going to be treated like the crap they aren’t?


66 posted on 02/24/2018 8:08:24 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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But he signaled a possible shift on the issue this week,

Why is it that conservatives are ALWAYS the side to get the shift?

I'll answer my own question....

Because conservatives will not throw a fit like the left does and they know the majority of the time they will get away with it.

I have been begging conservatives for years to get angry and fight back.

I can't throw a fit by myself.
67 posted on 02/24/2018 8:13:39 PM PST by ssfromla
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To: Joe 6-pack

Slippery slope was in today’s NYT crossword.


68 posted on 02/24/2018 8:16:09 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

[[Will be used by leftists to disarm ... YOU!]]

Not just leftists- but anyone with a beef with you- a spouse during a divorce- a jilted lover- someone who just doesn’t like a person and turns them in- big big chance of abuse with these red flag laws-


69 posted on 02/24/2018 8:44:03 PM PST by Bob434
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To: backwoods-engineer; fella; bitt

Your caveat is well considered; while I do agree with the principle here, I would encourage all studying this proposal to study the Serbsky Institute in Moscow in the bad old days.


70 posted on 02/24/2018 9:02:15 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Simon Green

Oh, well, as long as a JUDGE gets to make the determination, we have nothing to worry about.

Hopefully, Trump is playing box, stick, and piece of cheese with the dems again.


71 posted on 02/24/2018 9:26:09 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Simon Green
The AG’s website has the pdf file of his Red Flag advisory which seems to be a fair summary. To their credit the actual law is included in the file. This is worth reading. This AG was at the White House meeting and media are mentioning this law.

Scanning the document I see some disturbing elements.

See no option to transfer ownership.

Potential destruction of firearms after 5 years.

Considering that many of my colleagues felt a duty to declare DJT mentally ill and unfit, without conducting an evaluation, I would hope he can see the inherent dangers.

72 posted on 02/24/2018 9:37:28 PM PST by PsyCon
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To: Bob Ireland; ransomnote; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...

stickey-wicket ping


73 posted on 02/24/2018 9:39:47 PM PST by bitt (We dont need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: bitt

Please tell me he’s to smart to fall for this crap!


74 posted on 02/24/2018 9:50:37 PM PST by defconw (Because Americans are dreamers, too!)
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To: Simon Green

Who decides? some liberal Judge? I no longer have any guns, lost them in a boating accident.


75 posted on 02/24/2018 9:59:42 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: Simon Green

I don’t believe Trump is dumb enough to do this but if it did happen he could immediately say all democrats must turn in their firearms for being mentally ill. We know they are sick in the head they know it.


76 posted on 02/24/2018 10:01:48 PM PST by Boomer (Leftism is a Mental Cancer on Society! Pray for a cure for the diseased and damaged left!)
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To: Simon Green

Oh, yeah, like FISA Courts. What a wonderful idea!


77 posted on 02/24/2018 10:17:22 PM PST by matthew fuller (There are 44,498,750 reasons that democrat concern for dead children is so totally hypocritical.)
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To: Simon Green

This proposed ‘law’ was passed by our Senate Committee yesterday and will get a vote by the whole Senate next week. This is in Vermont, which has always defeated crap such as this. If it passes our wishy-washy Governor would sign it.


78 posted on 02/24/2018 10:43:30 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Bob434

This effects a lot of Vets not good idea to go there.


79 posted on 02/24/2018 11:10:32 PM PST by easternsky
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To: faithhopecharity

Wouldn’t Liberals use it to remove guns from all of their neighbors?


80 posted on 02/24/2018 11:26:44 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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