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Eliminate Israel, Eliminate Islamic Terrorism?-A look at Muslim logic and Western naivety.
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| March 2, 2018
| Raymond Ibrahim
Posted on 03/05/2018 7:47:07 AM PST by SJackson
Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
The plague of Islamic terrorism is based on grievances against Israelso says Al Azhar, the worlds most prestigious madrasa (or Muslim university) that co-hosted Barrack Obamas 2009 A New Beginning speech. During a recently televised Egyptian interview, Ahmed Al TayebAl Azhars grand imam, once named the most influential Muslim in the worldsaid:
I have noticed that they are always telling us that terrorism is Islamic. All those mouthpieces that croakout of ignorance or because they were told tothat the Al-Azhar curricula are the cause of terrorism never talk about Israel, about Israels prisons, about the genocides perpetrated by the Zionist entity state
. If not for the abuse of the region by means of the Zionist entity, there would never have been any problem. The Middle East and the region would have progressed, and the Arab individual would have been like any other person in the world, enjoying a good life, or at least enjoying the right to live in peace.
Theres certainly much to comment on here. First, Al Azhar has in fact been exposed time and time again teaching the same anti-infidel and supremacist doctrines that groups like the Islamic State rely on. After being asked why Al Azhar, which is in the habit of denouncing secular thinkers as un-Islamic, refuses to denounce the Islamic State as un-Islamic, Sheikh Nasr, a scholar of Islamic law and graduate of Al Azhar, said:
It cant [condemn the Islamic State as un-Islamic]. The Islamic State is a byproduct of Al Azhars programs. So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic? Al Azhar says there must be a caliphate and that it is an obligation for the Muslim world [to establish it]. Al Azhar teaches the law of apostasy and killing the apostate. Al Azhar is hostile towards religious minorities, and teaches things like not building churches, etc. Al Azhar upholds the institution of jizya [extracting tribute from religious minorities]. Al Azhar teaches stoning people. So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic?
But what of Tayebs other point, that because Israel abuses Palestinians (meaning fellow Muslims), aggrieved Muslims around the world have had no choice but to turn to jihad/terrorism? This of course is another rehashing of the Muslim grievance myth popularized by al-Qaeda post 9/11. Back in 2009, Bin Laden said:
You [Americans] should ask yourselves whether your security, your blood, your sons, your money, your jobs, your homes, your economy, and your reputation are more dear to you than the security and economy of the Israelis
. Let me say that we have declared many times, over more than two and a half decades, that the reason for our conflict with you is your support for your Israeli allies, who are occupying our land of Palestine [emphasis added].
Needless to say, this message was (and continues to be) swallowed hook line and sinker by many Western analystseven as bin Laden was stressing to fellow Muslims (in Arabic) the real reason for our conflict:
Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: [1] either willing submission [conversion]; [2] or payment of the jizya, through physical, though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; [3] or the sword for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die. (The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 42)
More emboldened jihadis have of late dropped the façade. In an article unambiguously titled, Why We Hate You & Why We Fight You, the Islamic State confessed that We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers. As for any and all political grievances, these are secondary reasons for the jihad:
Whats important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list. [
] The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you [emphasis added].
This threefold choice, thenconversion, subjugation/jizya, or the swordis the ultimate source of conflict between Islam and everyone else; its why prudent non-Muslims have always found the question of achieving permanent peace with the Islamic world an unsolvable problem. As professor of law James Lorimer (1818-90) wrote over a century ago:
So long as Islam endures, the reconciliation of its adherents, even with Jews and Christians [People of the Book], and still more with the rest of mankind, must continue to be an insoluble problem.
For an indefinite future, however reluctantly, we must confine our political recognition to the professors of those religions which
preach the doctrine of live and let live (The Institutes of the Law of Nations, p. 124).
In other words, political recognitionwith all the attendant negotiations, diplomacy, and concessions that come with itshould be granted to all religions/civilizations except Islam, which does not reciprocate nor recognize the notion of live and let live (as evinced for example by the Korans commands for Muslims to enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong (e.g., 3:110)that is, enforce Sharia upon earth).
Nor is Islamic supremacism confined to doctrines and scriptures that are open to interpretation; history makes an equally ironclad case. As I document in my forthcoming book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West, over the centuries and through countless jihads, Muslims invaded and eventually conquered some ¾ of all Christian lands; the scale of destruction and atrocities accompanying these jihads make Islamic State atrocities seem like childs play.
If Israel had nothing to do with all thisit did not even existare we really to believe that grievances against it are responsible for Al Azhar still teaching, and Muslims still upholding, the same doctrines that caused them to terrorize all non-Muslims for centuries?
No, this is yet another case of Muslim apologists trying to kill two birds with one stone: portrayingand thus exoneratingtheir terroristic behavior as an inevitable product of grievances against a demonized Israel that deserves all the blame. In reality, the ultimate grievance Muslims have against all non-Muslims is just thatthat they are non-Muslim, inferior infidels that must be subjugated one way or the other.
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Next up are the Christians- anything not islam is fair game to muzzies
To: I want the USA back
Eliminate ISLAM. It has been a nest of violent sociopaths since it’s beginning. EVERYWHERE Islam is is cursed by violence. Overnight the world would be a better place if Islam was eradicated and all its inbred, mentally ill death ‘worshippers with it. Let’s try it. Let’s start HERE.
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03/06/2018 7:33:36 AM PST
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ClearBlueSky
(ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
To: SJackson
As we have seen when the IDF forcibly removed settlers from Gaza in a unilateral withdrawal, when the Infidel leaves or is driven out, there is a blood-bath among the Muslims, with the most heavily armed and ruthless faction taking power.
Then a terrorist state is established, which promptly turns its attention to further violent conquest.
Such is the fruit of appeasing a culture that has no provision for peaceful co-existence — with outsiders, nor each other.
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03/06/2018 5:03:36 PM PST
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