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Scientists may not quite be poised to ask you if you want fries with that but the job market they face is not the one that has been reported on.
1 posted on 03/08/2018 9:17:43 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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My daughter will start high school in September at a STEM school. She had to take a test and have an above 90 grade in Science and Math! MAGA to my beautiful Giovanna!


2 posted on 03/08/2018 9:20:45 AM PST by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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Why are we importing so many STEM graduates from India via H-1B?


3 posted on 03/08/2018 9:22:53 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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This isn’t new! In the 60’s there was a joke circulating that asked what do you call a Ph.D. in Physics? The answer was “a cab driver.”


4 posted on 03/08/2018 9:23:45 AM PST by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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“Fifty years ago, in my own area of experimental psychology, things were very different.”

I think I see the source of his concern. I bet sociology and anthropology majors are also having a hard time of it.


8 posted on 03/08/2018 9:26:11 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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There will soon be a shortage of electricians, plumbers and oil rig workers.


10 posted on 03/08/2018 9:26:17 AM PST by lurk
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There is no STEM glut.

There is an H-1B glut.
 

12 posted on 03/08/2018 9:27:48 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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But there is also demand for such PhD’s in industry. Maybe they all can’t become tenured Ivy League professors, but they all should be smart and well-educated in their fields.


16 posted on 03/08/2018 9:28:24 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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A glut? Get rid of H1B, fill those jobs. And restrict L1 and other visas. Send them all home.


21 posted on 03/08/2018 9:34:49 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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"It turns out that new PhDs in science have a hard time getting a job like their mentor's:

Speaking of Accuracy in Academia, either put the apostrophe in the right place, or leave it out -- depending on the intended meaning.

22 posted on 03/08/2018 9:35:34 AM PST by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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Academic scientists discover unbreakable Law of Supply and Demand..................


27 posted on 03/08/2018 9:37:35 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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This was a problem way back in the late 80’s-early 90’s.

There was a huge glut of electrical and mechanical engineers in the midwest. So much so that most of them could earn more as a technician in the trades than they could as an engineer.

It wasn’t just blue collar jobs that were going overseas in those days.


28 posted on 03/08/2018 9:37:41 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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Since this article ONLY references university teaching positions, it is more than slightly misleading. By far the majority of STEM jobs is in private industry, even for PhD’s.


31 posted on 03/08/2018 9:41:07 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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We need more people from $hithole$ to park in entry level tech positions for 10 years, and provide services that Americans just can’t do, because of the “free market” or something.


34 posted on 03/08/2018 9:49:34 AM PST by cdcdawg
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Sounds more like a glut of professional STEM students that don’t want to enter the real world.


39 posted on 03/08/2018 9:55:54 AM PST by shotgun
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Thankfully, we don’t have a glut in womyn’s studies, art history, and journalism.

We need more of these critical fields.
/sarc


43 posted on 03/08/2018 9:57:20 AM PST by oldbill
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They’re looking at the wrong part of STEM. The shortage isn’t in PHDs teaching the next wave, it’s in non-PHDs doing the actual work.


45 posted on 03/08/2018 9:58:29 AM PST by discostu (It's been so long, welcome back my friend, to the show, that never ends.)
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PhD’s looking to be professors are a different market than most STEM grads.


47 posted on 03/08/2018 9:59:26 AM PST by redgolum
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I could have told them this ten years ago.

Biological Sciences degrees, especially, are useful only as toilet paper these days. Unless you’re going into something specialized, like medicine. As for Veterinary, if you’re male, forget it.


52 posted on 03/08/2018 10:09:07 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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I dunno, in general my RoT is that a STEM major won't ever go hungry.

I'm sure that you can over-educate yourself, though. In IT, sure, I'd love to see "B.S." on a resume. "M.S."? Maybe, depending on what it's in. "PhD"? I'd wonder why they were applying for the job....not too many PhDs in the work that I do. And, I'd wonder how long they'd stick around, particularly in a entry-level, or 2-3 years experience type job.

I thought about getting my MBA for about 5 minutes, until I found out that there was such a glut of them on the market that the place where I was hired MBAs to work the phones at 11-12 bucks an hour.

Never Mind.

56 posted on 03/08/2018 10:18:21 AM PST by wbill
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I am sure the “E” in there is in high demand. Naval staring scientists, probably not so much.


58 posted on 03/08/2018 10:23:34 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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