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Trump pardons Kristian Saucier, former sailor jailed for submarine pictures
Washington Examiner ^ | March 9, 2018

Posted on 03/09/2018 12:54:42 PM PST by deplorableindc

President Trump issued the second pardon of his presidency Friday to former Navy sailor Kristian Saucier, who learned the news while driving a garbage truck, the only job he could find with a felony conviction.

Saucier was sentenced to a year in prison during the 2016 campaign for taking pictures inside a nuclear submarine. Trump invoked his case repeatedly on the campaign trail, saying he was “ruined” for doing “nothing” compared to Hillary Clinton.

Still, Trump allowed Saucier to serve his full prison sentence. He was released in September and returned to the Vermont home he shares with his wife Sadie and their two-year-old daughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; donaldtrump; kristiansaucier; pardons; sailorpardoned; trumppardon
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To: deplorableindc

Trump may be (At last!) putting the pieces on the “game board”.


21 posted on 03/09/2018 1:19:11 PM PST by Reily
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To: nickcarraway
What was in the pictures? Anything really classified or revealing? No, nothing.

You know, when I was in the nuclear power program, we were stifled on our studies--everything classified, had to study in the building only. After a year of college I knew better, when to the local college and found practically the same books, the same drawings, and did my study on campus and restaurants. Seriously, so much is so excessively over classified that it is ridiculous.

And yes, I understand the need and value of security. I've worked in plenty of varying environments, some with incredible security, would never violate security, nor tolerate anyone that did.

But what this kid did was never serious and should have been handled within NJP. It was instead persecution. Shame on the people that did this.

22 posted on 03/09/2018 1:19:51 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: deplorableindc

so good....


23 posted on 03/09/2018 1:19:56 PM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: Reno89519
What was in the pictures? Anything really classified or revealing? No, nothing.

LOL So anyone gets to decide what is classified? It was classified. He knew he wasn't supposed to do it.

24 posted on 03/09/2018 1:22:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Reno89519

You are telling me that discipline is really that lax in the Navy today, that everyone gets to decide which order they get to follow, and which one we ignore. I didn’t realize the Navy had changed that much. I guess that explains the problems in the Pacific. It used to be in the Navy an order is an order.


25 posted on 03/09/2018 1:24:33 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Black or Middle Eastern?

What does this have to do with it? I'm not racist and if middle eastern, big deal. Never been a factor in my hiring, firing, associations, or friendships. If Islamic, sure, I'd have a problem with him being in a role requiring a security clearance in the first place.

26 posted on 03/09/2018 1:24:54 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Reno89519
Seriously, so much is so excessively over classified that it is ridiculous.

I don't doubt a lot is overclassified. But I still don't understand how the system you advocate that every sailor should decide for himself what is classified can possibly work.

27 posted on 03/09/2018 1:25:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Nickcarraway, what is your problem here? Again, did you serve? Enlisted or officer? Bad experience? What gives?


28 posted on 03/09/2018 1:27:01 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Reno89519

I just wonder if people are letting him off the hook because he’s white. He disobeyed order, and he violated protocol about classified info. It wasn’t his decision to make if it should have been classified or not.


29 posted on 03/09/2018 1:27:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: deplorableindc

Search? Also on sidebar!


30 posted on 03/09/2018 1:27:49 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Reno89519

I didn’t serve in the Navy. Were you allowed to disobey orders when you were in the Navy. I just don’t get everyone celebrating something that could harm our country.


31 posted on 03/09/2018 1:28:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
LOL So anyone gets to decide what is classified? It was classified. He knew he wasn't supposed to do it.

PRESIDENT Trump, LOL, knows.

32 posted on 03/09/2018 1:28:13 PM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Reno89519

What’s done is done. I just think there are a lot of defense attorney’s and spies licking their lips today.


33 posted on 03/09/2018 1:29:42 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The problem is the heavy handedness here. This was an indiscretion what warranted non-judicial punishment, not courts martial. That is the problem. And if I recall correctly, the command, his supervisors, and co-workers all came to his defense. This was an injustice. Completely. So, yes, I celebrate his pardon, I truly hope he gets reinstated with back pay and seniority, etc. The Navy needs to make him whole as best they can.


34 posted on 03/09/2018 1:31:51 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: nickcarraway
Saucier did not follow procedures. However, the issue here is not his failure to follow procedures, but the rampant injustice where a lowly seaman is punished severely while the likes of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and their underlings committed crimes far more egregious and are walking free. Benghazi and the unjustified coup in Libya, just to cite two instances.

One rule for the privileged elite and another for the peasant classes cannot continue.

35 posted on 03/09/2018 1:35:32 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: nickcarraway

One pardon is going to harm our country? Now you’re just being silly. This won’t harm our country.

You sure are on an anti-Trump crusade lately.


36 posted on 03/09/2018 1:37:08 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: captain_dave

“everyone produces garbage!”

Especially Democrats in Bernie Sanders’ state!


37 posted on 03/09/2018 1:45:29 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Reno89519
The problem is the heavy handedness here. This was an indiscretion what warranted non-judicial punishment, not courts martial.

This. +1

38 posted on 03/09/2018 1:47:00 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Reno89519

You know, it baffles me that a few want to argue with your volunteering your informed opinion.

I might disagree with you but I did no Submarine service and having your opinion from that background might temper my opinion or make it more intelligently presented.

Thanks for providing it.

I have built, operated within, designed aspects of and serviced SAPF standard and similar secure facilities for the United States armed forces.


39 posted on 03/09/2018 1:58:19 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: deplorableindc

Yes, Yes and again Yes!!! Thank heavens for Donald Trump.


40 posted on 03/09/2018 2:13:24 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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