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Trump pardons Kristian Saucier, former sailor jailed for submarine pictures
Washington Examiner ^ | March 9, 2018

Posted on 03/09/2018 12:54:42 PM PST by deplorableindc

President Trump issued the second pardon of his presidency Friday to former Navy sailor Kristian Saucier, who learned the news while driving a garbage truck, the only job he could find with a felony conviction.

Saucier was sentenced to a year in prison during the 2016 campaign for taking pictures inside a nuclear submarine. Trump invoked his case repeatedly on the campaign trail, saying he was “ruined” for doing “nothing” compared to Hillary Clinton.

Still, Trump allowed Saucier to serve his full prison sentence. He was released in September and returned to the Vermont home he shares with his wife Sadie and their two-year-old daughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; donaldtrump; kristiansaucier; pardons; sailorpardoned; trumppardon
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To: gaijin

This man has a very important job. If you disagree then just let your garbage man not show up for a month and see how that works for you. It is an honest job therefore it is an honorable job.


41 posted on 03/09/2018 2:13:26 PM PST by Saltmeat
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To: nickcarraway
He disobeyed legitimate orders and it dealt with classified information. What kind of security did he have on his phone? Do you know it wasn't hacked by the United States' enemies? This is a nightmare for our military. They can't protect our military secrets anymore. Do you really want the country's enemies to have a free pass at all our military secrets?

He took some photos of a 28 year old submarine that was designed in the early 1970's and currently out of production. We're all going to die.

42 posted on 03/09/2018 2:16:17 PM PST by OA5599
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To: nickcarraway
He disobeyed legitimate orders and it dealt with classified information. What kind of security did he have on his phone? Do you know it wasn't hacked by the United States' enemies? This is a nightmare for our military. They can't protect our military secrets anymore. Do you really want the country's enemies to have a free pass at all our military secrets?

He took some photos of a 28 year old submarine that was designed in the early 1970's and currently out of production. We're all going to die.

43 posted on 03/09/2018 2:16:19 PM PST by OA5599
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To: nickcarraway
Now personnel is free to disperse classified information anywhere. Basically classified military information is a thing of the past.

Sweet! You're saying all we have to do is serve a year in prison, and we're free to disperse confidential level information? I'm totally in!

44 posted on 03/09/2018 2:18:32 PM PST by OA5599
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To: nickcarraway

Oh horsecrap. Geesh, you are a sad person.


45 posted on 03/09/2018 2:21:41 PM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: nickcarraway
You are telling me that discipline is really that lax in the Navy today, that everyone gets to decide which order they get to follow, and which one we ignore. I didn’t realize the Navy had changed that much. I guess that explains the problems in the Pacific. It used to be in the Navy an order is an order.

Over 20 years ago, I knew a chief that had a photo of himself at the primary sample sink wearing nothing but his apron, gloves, safety glasses and boots. His bare ass was hanging out. This is in a nuclear submarine engine room, where photos were prohibited.

Later, this chief was up for consideration for a special program, and this photo resurfaced during the interview. The director of Naval Reactors saw it. That four star admiral laughed. The chief got the gig. Guess it was always lax in the navy.

46 posted on 03/09/2018 2:26:25 PM PST by OA5599
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To: OA5599

So what if the submarine was 28 years old. They still use some of the same classified technology. The Air Force still uses eight inch floppy disks in their missile command centers. When was the last time you used an eight inch floppy disk?


47 posted on 03/09/2018 2:29:33 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: deplorableindc

Now Hillary will want to be pardoned upon this precedent.


48 posted on 03/09/2018 2:34:16 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (We Arizonans need to get rid of McCain/Flake as all of us pray for Trump.)
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To: OA5599

Okay, then. Any service member, or any citizen, should decide on their own what deserves to be classified or not. We can call it the “Hillary Clinton Rule,” since that’s exactly her argument. You just want to give her a total pass.


49 posted on 03/09/2018 2:42:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: OA5599

Don’t forget Bradley “Chelsea” Manning. Manning got a pardon too!


50 posted on 03/09/2018 2:43:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: gaijin

He should have received an Article 15, some pay taken away for a few months and that would be that. Since his superiors in his command went to bat for him over this transgression, the Article 15 would be the appropriate punishment.

IRRC, the sailor took a picture/s of himself in the submarine to show the folks at home where he worked. Understandable for a young man not thinking. IRRC, that phone was somehow lost and turned up and that was how the pictures were discovered and then then all hell broke loose. Still, an Article 15 should have been the way to go considering the nature of the offense.


51 posted on 03/09/2018 2:52:33 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: deplorableindc

Good. Move forward.


52 posted on 03/09/2018 2:56:18 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: deplorableindc

1. Thank you, President Trump, for removing life-long punishment for Mr. Saucier. There is an example of actual justice in our system.

2. Please now pardon Dinesh D’Souza, who was jailed on a trumped-up charge (no pun intended) of making an excessive campaign contribution to an old college classmate/friend. He was in the sights of the Obama Administration because he wrote “Obama’s America,” which talked about how destructive to this country Obama and his administration had been, and would continue to be. Mr. D’Souza now has no right to vote - but you can restore it by pardoning him.

By the way, after getting out of prison, he wrote “Hillary’s America,” which undoubtedly helped get you elected in 2016. The man loves this country and what it offers to people, and made a simple and inadvertent mistake - he shouldn’t have a lifetime ban on voting because of it.


53 posted on 03/09/2018 3:10:10 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: nickcarraway

Trump won....deal with it.


54 posted on 03/09/2018 3:11:46 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: reg45

So you don’t think the year he spent in prison was enough deterrence for that?

I don’t get why some people are freaking out over Trump letting this guy get on with his life.


55 posted on 03/09/2018 3:12:16 PM PST by OA5599
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To: nickcarraway

Right, because a year in prison is a total pass.

And how did Clinton get in here?


56 posted on 03/09/2018 3:14:09 PM PST by OA5599
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To: Reno89519; nickcarraway

I was in the Army. My son, though, is a senior chief petty officer who has served as a nuke ET on several submarines. He’s not a big fan of Trump, but he said that he thinks this was a good call on Trump’s part.


57 posted on 03/09/2018 3:15:28 PM PST by rwa265
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To: deplorableindc

The military jackass who decided to persecute (yes, persecute) this poor guy should be forceably “retired”as not being fit for active duty. Probably some pencil head back echelon desk jockey.


58 posted on 03/09/2018 4:40:31 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: nickcarraway

He’s not a traitor. If he sold or gave the pics to an enemy, he’d be a traitor.

He did something stupid. And Trump is correct in his pardon, as this guy did nothing compared to what Hitlery did. There is a thing called non judicial punishment, or Article 15 when I was in. With this he could have been fined or reduced in grade.


59 posted on 03/09/2018 4:56:02 PM PST by redfreedom
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To: Reno89519

What he did is not even a fraction of the damage to national security that Hillary did. She put at risk the highest classified programs to include special access programs.

She must at least be indicted for these crimes.


60 posted on 03/10/2018 3:30:28 AM PST by Freedom_2_ADM
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