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Welders, Axle Makers and Others Fear Soaring Costs From Trump Steel Tariffs
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 8, 2018 | Andrew Tangel, Bob Tita and Josh Zumbrun

Posted on 03/10/2018 6:10:23 AM PST by reaganaut1

Small manufacturers that fashion metal into parts for makers of cars, appliances and other products fear they could be the hardest hit by new tariffs on aluminum and steel.

“I’m worried,” said Dave Arndt, chief executive of Pentaflex Inc. of Springfield, Ohio, whose products include components such as truck axles and exhaust systems. Steel accounts for 60% of his product costs, and customers could leave if he raises prices. “There’s a lot of risk.”

Many of the smaller manufacturers at the heart of the American supply chain are firms few outside their industries or communities have ever heard of. They are the so-called metal-benders: fabricators, welders and machine-tooling shops that rely on steel and aluminum as the main or only ingredients for the parts they make to send on to bigger manufacturers.

Together though, they outnumber the nation’s metal producers, many of which have supported the new tariffs, and account for a larger chunk of the U.S. manufacturing workforce.

There were 29,288 steel-consuming firms in the U.S. employing more than 900,000 workers as of the second quarter of 2017, according to the latest U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data. That compares with 916 steel producers with a combined workforce of more than 80,000. The data include steel consumers that make products such as springs, vehicle parts and wire, but not major manufacturers such as auto makers.

Many of these metal-consuming suppliers are also big consumers of aluminum. The aluminum-production industry is even smaller than steel, employing about 60,000 people at some 600 firms.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tariffs
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To: photodawg

I am not convinced one way or the other. I can state that a few years ago a new citizen engineer friend that worked for a very large US company was steel shopping. He said he needed 20 ton or 20 ton per unit of very high quality steel for a project and he was disgusted he could not find it in the US. I think he said he had to buy it from China.

He said he felt that America had no manufacturing base—and it was just as hollow spiritually.


101 posted on 03/10/2018 9:32:30 AM PST by whistleduck ("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
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To: DouglasKC

This will all balance out in the end.
True the tax brakes will cover it.


102 posted on 03/10/2018 9:33:23 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: reaganaut1
I had a summer job at a steel mill between years in college. That was in 1950. I could see even then that the unions were killing the steel industry. Sorry, I have no sympathy for them. They made their bed. Now they don't want to lie in it.
103 posted on 03/10/2018 9:35:48 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (,uld')
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To: reaganaut1

“You don’t help American manufacturing by raising the prices of key inputs like steel aluminum. “

You don’t help American manufacturing by sending American mining, steel, aluminum, and other manufacturing consumer industries overseas, you moron!


104 posted on 03/10/2018 9:36:19 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: Revolutionary

“The cost of the material is very minor compared to the cost of the labor, overhead and taxes. Even for a plane; it is the labor and not the materials.”

Just to add to what you’re saying, the cost of a new jet liner, like a 737, comes out to just under $1000 per pound of dry weight. So increase the price of aluminum by 20 cents per pound and it’s difficult to see how it’s going to crash aircraft sales. Heck, one flight line mechanic calling in sick for one day probably has more impact to the cost of the plane.


105 posted on 03/10/2018 9:39:05 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: central_va

“Pig iron is dirt cheap even after a 25% tariff.”

The OP just HATES America and seeks her destruction. These liberals want nothing good for America.


106 posted on 03/10/2018 9:40:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: central_va

“At $300/ton for steel that works out to $390.00 per car. So slap a 25% tariff on it. That increases the steel price by $97.50. THAT IS NOT SOARING!!!

Worth repeating. Liberals love their emotions and never give any facts.


107 posted on 03/10/2018 9:45:19 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: Will88; central_va

“Steel accounts for 60% of his product costs”

She’s a typical liberal liar. The raw material of a car is 65% billet steel, which is $300/ton today.

As central_va pointed out: “At $300/ton for steel that works out to $390.00 per car. So slap a 25% tariff on it. That increases the steel price by $97.50.”

The cost of labor to turn that steel billet into a car, as you mentioned, is a far higher cost.


108 posted on 03/10/2018 9:47:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: Fresh Wind

” A New Car Will Cost You at Least $3,800 Extra Because of Government Regulation. “

LOL - remove ONE AIRBAG, maybe a useless side-curtain one, and the added cost of steel is more than offset.


109 posted on 03/10/2018 9:50:38 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: eastforker

Your post rearranged.

“Yea, the tariffs will raise the cost of a Boeing 777 about $25,000, lots of hoopla about nothing.”

THAT DOES IT! I’m not buying any more 777s! It’s Airbus for me. /s


110 posted on 03/10/2018 10:30:38 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: bigtoona

Women and children welders and axle makers to
be hardest hit.


111 posted on 03/10/2018 10:51:53 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: faucetman

Yup, on a 320 million dollar aircraft, $25K isn’t much.


112 posted on 03/10/2018 11:22:19 AM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: eastforker

We import about 25% of our steel. We import about 25% of our oil. Bring on the oil tariffs in the name of national security.


113 posted on 03/10/2018 12:07:00 PM PST by oincobx
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To: reaganaut1

My business relies on sheet aluminum products. I could save maybe 5% by purchasing the ‘cheap’ Chinese-made crap that some suppliers carry, but I choose to buy American, because the quality of the goods is much, much better.

My customers appreciate it, I’m more confident in extending my warranty, and I know I’m helping to keep American jobs at home.

MAGA!


114 posted on 03/10/2018 12:41:44 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: oincobx
Would You support an increase in the minimum wage of say $1.00 for American workers if it only raised your $5.00 value meal by a nickel?

I'd be glad to support that wage increase on my competitors.
115 posted on 03/10/2018 3:06:10 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Ozark Tom
I sure hope they do!

116 posted on 03/10/2018 4:42:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Hollywood,google,CNN,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: vette6387

You mean like Toyotas’ engines and transmissions? Made right here in USA


117 posted on 03/10/2018 8:46:48 PM PST by Figment
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To: reaganaut1

First time you’ll ever see the WSJ worry about the American working class.


118 posted on 03/10/2018 8:48:12 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Will88

“Perot made that argument during the NAFTA debate. He also said if large US farms put the small scale Mexican farmers out of business that many of them would head north and enter the US illegally to find work.”

And that is exactly what happened. Saw it firsthand in SoCal.


119 posted on 03/10/2018 9:08:25 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: cyclotic
Comparing the amount of steel workers to steel consumers is complete nonsense. There are appx. 2250 people employed globally manufacturing toothbrushes for 6,000,000,000,000 toothbrush consumers. Those are real numbers and that makes just as much sense as the steelworker to steel consumer argument. ie: none

Ha that was the first thing I thought of when reading the article. Why don't they do a comparison of steel output vs quantity needed?
120 posted on 03/11/2018 9:17:04 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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