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Lamb vs. Saccone Special Election PA18
NY Times ^ | March 13, 2018

Posted on 03/13/2018 5:16:01 PM PDT by Pinkbell

A thread to discuss the results.

I feel like Lamb has a lot of momentum, has run as a moderate, and has run a better campaign. I'll predict he'll win tonight (although I'd like to see Saccone win).

NYT does a good job with election results.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 18thdistrict; conorlamb; lamb; pa2018; paspecialelection; pennsylvania; ricksaccone; saccone; trump
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To: jdsteel

In other words, all the democrats need to do to win these things is to run a candidate that is moremRepublican than the Republican candidate.


841 posted on 03/14/2018 4:45:23 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Yosemitest

wow so then with fraction magic.......we are screwed


842 posted on 03/14/2018 5:04:54 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: af_vet_rr

this was a “special” election...this Lamb guy was hand chosen. He didnt survive a primary like the others will have to...the kooks have taken over that party...funny, just last week, all i heard was that Texas was turning blue...until Ted Cruz got more votes than all the donks combined. There will be no blue wave.


843 posted on 03/14/2018 5:05:35 AM PDT by basalt
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To: FlipWilson

Only morons can be fooled by that little tactic


844 posted on 03/14/2018 5:22:16 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: af_vet_rr

If every district shifts as far towards the Dems as this one did from the Presidential election, the Rats will pick up 119 house seats.

That is a certain impossibility (look at Georgia) but it’s sobering.


845 posted on 03/14/2018 5:25:08 AM PDT by Taipei
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To: fraudwatch2017

I understand. The statement made no sense though.


846 posted on 03/14/2018 5:30:43 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Ulysse

Re. “Only morons would be fooled by that tactic”

Apparently, they were in PA 18.


847 posted on 03/14/2018 5:50:31 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

They weren’t fooled. They were selfish. They believe they already got what they wanted, so they either stayed home or - as a dem that voted Trump - they returned home to vote dem.


848 posted on 03/14/2018 5:58:44 AM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: inchworm

Lamb will be in lockstep with the rest of the kooky left on all legislation. The white working class Democrats who voted for this fraud deserve what they get!


849 posted on 03/14/2018 6:33:47 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Taipei

It’s sobering for sure but these white working class Dems are voting for their own destruction!


850 posted on 03/14/2018 6:36:06 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: af_vet_rr
Lamb had around $2.6 million of outside funds spent on him.

Lamb boasted that he accepted no PAC money. So where was this outside money coming from?
851 posted on 03/14/2018 6:38:29 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: dowcaet
It’s sobering for sure but these white working class Dems are voting for their own destruction!

Get within 10 miles of the city of Pittsburgh and most of white lower middle class are brain-dead, wigger "Yinzer" imbeciles, who care mostly about Steeler's football and eating themselves into a heart attack. There really isn't any "White working class" in Mon Valley anymore, that left in the mid 1980's with the mills closing. Mostly you have partially employed people, sucking off the government teat. The ones that are working mostly changing oil at Pep Boys or stocking shelves at WalMart. Obama recovery type stuff. It's really no wonder the opioid epidemic is the highest in the nations in this district.

852 posted on 03/14/2018 7:01:36 AM PDT by pburgh01 (Negan all the MSM)
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To: boycott
The previous congressman’s sex scandal is not an excuse for this loss.

All I am saying is that we would not be dealing with this crap if the previous Congressman had enough sense and discipline not to go around dipping his wick and then talking about getting an abortion if a pregnancy developed. Why can't these people keep themselves under control and not pull this kind of crap? This kind of stuff happens and there is a natural backlash from the electorate against any candidate marginally associated with the scumbag who betrayed his family. The associated here was party label. Politics is like that. I'm old enough to remember the fallout from Watergate which, in perspective, is kind of a piker compared to the crap Obama has pulled. The 'Pubs were punished without surcease for three election cycles and it took a combination of a charismatic Reagan and a bumbling Carter to get past it.

853 posted on 03/14/2018 7:06:17 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Pinkbell

Once again, a near tie which is nearly statistically impossible... without some engineered ballot box shenanigans.


854 posted on 03/14/2018 7:07:49 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: blueyon
Basically ... yes.
But the Memphis computer programmer Bennie Smith won a court case proving that this program was used in Memphis, and the results overturned an election
But it took a lot of time to do it.
855 posted on 03/14/2018 7:09:25 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Proudarmybrat

If you want conservatism, as that word has historically been understood, Moore was the perfect candidate. If you want to argue “electability,” have at it. He had the race, but was defeated by massive election fraud (admitted), outside money funding slander and the heavy anchor of the RINO GOPe refusing to back the “R” candidate.

I’m ashamed to call myself a Republican.


856 posted on 03/14/2018 7:13:07 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: boycott
The republicans would have had more excitement if they ran a head of cabbage.

I understand your point, but honestly, should this matter? What are we, a bunch of twelve year olds with ADHD? The voters of that district vote almost 20 percentage points for Trump over Clinton and most of them either sit at home or turn around and vote for Lamb? It makes no sense. I don't care what a feeble candidate Saccone was. Trump needs Republicans in Congress or he can't pursue his agenda, and voters know darn well Lamb is going to vote with Pelosi virtually all the time. This is stupid beyond belief.


857 posted on 03/14/2018 7:14:20 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: pburgh01

It seems our side are the only sane people left in this country. As a former Dem myself I do everything I can to convince friends and family who still vote D to reconsider their voting patterns. My home state of Connecticut and the state where I spent my young adult years, California, are being actively destroyed by Democrats. I use every argument I can to persuade them to stop voting for Democrats, but most of my efforts are failing. While I still hold out hope we can turn this country around, but I can’t help feeling more pessimistic knowing so many Americans are blind to what the Democrat Party really stands for and has in store for our future, yet still vote for their nonsense!


858 posted on 03/14/2018 7:20:34 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: pburgh01

This is so true.


859 posted on 03/14/2018 7:24:21 AM PDT by Proudarmybrat
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To: boycott

pretty miopic view.
Trump was neither in the Bama Senate race nor the Penn 18 race.

Trump did not back Moore in the special primary. For good reason. And yes, the sex scandal impacted this race huge. IT turns voters off.

The gop candidate for Penn18 was a huge dud. Period.

Before those around here who don’t know jack about campaigns go into the sky is falling mode some more, pull your heads out of the ovens and remember just a week ago the races that the media said were the bellweather races in Texas. Well, the Trump candidates kicked total butt. Cruised in crowded primaries. Won in two way primaries with 77 percent of the vote. The anti trump candidates lost.

If you think Republicans are not awake and looking at this, you simply have not been paying attention.


860 posted on 03/14/2018 7:30:33 AM PDT by Proudarmybrat
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