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This Is Exactly How Trade Wars Begin
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 14, 2018 | Alan S. Blinder

Posted on 03/15/2018 7:44:21 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Dear President Trump :

It seems you are about to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. You probably know that just about every economist except Peter Navarro thinks this is a terrible idea. But it’s not just us economists. Aside from the steel and aluminum industries, virtually the entire business community opposes the tariffs. The stock market took a major hit. And by the way, when did you stop using the Dow to keep score?

You tweeted that “trade wars are good, and easy to win.” Actually, trade wars are bad, and impossible to win.

Voluntary trade is a win-win proposition, as Adam Smith explained in “The Wealth of Nations.” Impeding voluntary trade is a lose-lose proposition. The key word here is “voluntary.” When foreigners rent rooms in your Washington hotel, both you and they win, right? If not, why would they stay there, and why would you accept them as guests?

Next, let’s consider your “easy to win” quip. It is likely that the U.S. can inflict more pain on its trading partners than they can inflict on us, as we rely less on trade than most countries do. Sure. But merely suffering less than your opponent seems a poor definition of “winning.” Trade wars are a pyrrhic form of competition in which even the victor is left worse off.

You say America loses whenever it runs a trade deficit with any country. But in 2017 the U.S. ran a $571 billion trade deficit with the entire world, which necessarily included deficits with dozens of individual countries. Were they all beating us—and if so, at what? The truth is that America’s huge multilateral trade deficit is made at home.

Here’s why. Nations that invest more than they save must borrow the difference from abroad.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: tariffs; tradewar; trumptariffs; trumptrade
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To: robroys woman

Evidently.


41 posted on 03/15/2018 9:13:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
What is the percentage of the USA's private sector workforce is in a union?


42 posted on 03/15/2018 9:13:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: reaganaut1

I think they mean that trade wars are dangerous when greedy, self serving, corrupt politicians who don’t understand business engage in them. This will probably be better.


43 posted on 03/15/2018 9:16:04 AM PDT by robel
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To: Alberta's Child
I'd be more comfortable with across-the-board tariffs, to be honest.

Absolutely. Start at 10% and increase +2% a year unto the trade deficit is 0.

44 posted on 03/15/2018 9:16:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Mariner

*****We know what the outcome of “Open Trade” (Free Trade for the US Market only) has been.

And those who foisted it upon us*****

Regulated the crap out of our industries to bring us down.

Why would they do that? They call themselves “Globalists”. They are nothing more than Anti-Christian bigots who want to destroy Western(Christian) Civilization because they want no restrictions placed on whatever perversity they are into from a Christian populace who will disapprove and fight against them.


45 posted on 03/15/2018 9:26:00 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: reaganaut1

Trade war?

Good! Let’s roll!


46 posted on 03/15/2018 9:26:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: reaganaut1

We have 570 billion dollar deficit with enemy China.They have much more to lose than us. Simple question: What is wrong with starting a war you are bound to win


47 posted on 03/15/2018 9:33:37 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: reaganaut1

Still pushing the BS huh. Get over it.


48 posted on 03/15/2018 10:41:30 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: reaganaut1
It seems you are about to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. You probably know that just about every economist except Peter Navarro thinks this is a terrible idea.

I stopped reading at that point.

Go for it, if you think that gross trade/tariff inequalities between equal strength economic countries is a good thing.

On this topic, I am permanently with Trump.
MAGA!

49 posted on 03/15/2018 10:52:25 AM PDT by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
With the tariff in place he can then say, “you want it removed? Talk to me about how you are going to remove YOUR tariff or rule.”

Even Rio Vista can understand that if a Ford Mustang has a 60% tariff in the E.U. but German Cars have 15% duty in the U.S., something is definitely not right.

Building cars in the U.S. is a gimmick only, if say, a BMW built and shipped from Europe is the same price as one built here from imported "parts."

Tariff Temporal Reciprocity is the simple, bulletproof answer.

50 posted on 03/15/2018 11:09:29 AM PDT by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: reaganaut1

“just about every economist except Peter Navarro thinks this is a terrible idea.”

... except for those advising almost every other country on Earth.


51 posted on 03/15/2018 11:34:06 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: central_va

Irrelevant in this case. The steelworkers union is the largest industrial union in the country, with over 850,000 members. That’s the relevant number.


52 posted on 03/15/2018 12:45:51 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

And I’ll bet a week’s pay that the steelworkers union endorses the Democrat in 2020.


53 posted on 03/15/2018 12:47:07 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hey Mr. Blunder, what is your proposal to eliminate the $800B trade deficit?


54 posted on 03/15/2018 12:47:45 PM PDT by leprechaun9 ( bou)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

I used to be totally anti union but fanatic Free Traitor™ Freepers turned me from anti union to ambivalent.


55 posted on 03/15/2018 12:48:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Most union members vote Republican. It is a well know fact their is big rift between the rank and file and leadership.


56 posted on 03/15/2018 12:50:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: leprechaun9

Good one!


57 posted on 03/15/2018 4:13:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: robroys woman

Exactly! Kudos.

NB: A shooting war that kills our soldiers tickles Trotskyist Globalists (Neocons), but a Trade War that gives our nation some parity gives them shivers.

All about money and power - both ways.


58 posted on 03/15/2018 6:55:49 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: robroys woman

Excellent!

Note that the pseudo-conservatives and pseudo-libertarians only use that argument (It’s The Free Market!) when it puts American patriots at a disadvantage. They refuse to acknowledge it here as you done.

Example: Snotty posters on Twitter fascist censorship for the Swamp by proxy: I thought you conservatives liked the free market.

Your point is spot on. Tell Mark Levin.


59 posted on 03/15/2018 7:00:27 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes!

It reveals the Trotskyist Neocon RINOs (the spawn of Irving Kristol).


60 posted on 03/15/2018 7:02:01 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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