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Collapsed Miami bridge was put in place WITHOUT the central tower and suspension cables [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 16, 2018 | Ariel Zilber

Posted on 03/16/2018 12:25:26 PM PDT by C19fan

Engineering experts say investigators looking into the collapsed ‘instant’ bridge in Miami will want to know why a central tower which is usually built to support a suspension bridge was not in place when it collapsed onto Tamiami Trail on Thursday afternoon.

Last week, Florida International University’s official Twitter account posted a rendering of the bridge in its completed form as envisioned by the planners before its opening to foot traffic in early 2019.

The rendering shows a tall central column with cables connecting it to the main span.

Engineers say the design is known as a ‘cable-stayed bridge,’ which is a kind of suspension bridge, according to USA Today.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bridges; engineering; epicfail; fiu; fiubridge; instantbridge
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To: mewzilla
A steel bridge would have been safer, easier to construct and met the need very nicely.

FIU had the political clout with people like Marco Rubio (he teaches a course there) to get the much large funds appropriated to build a really pretty cable stayed concrete bridge. Much better for FIU bragging rights than a plain ol utilitarian steel bridge.

Marco Rubio>>>>
At Florida International University, GOP rising star Sen. Marco Rubio is professor Rubio
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/at-florida-international-university-gop-rising-star-sen-marco-rubio-is/1226057

121 posted on 03/16/2018 1:52:46 PM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: editor-surveyor

It looks like it fails at one end. The impact of “resonances” from pedestrians would be inconsequential that close to the support. They would be at their maximum in the middle of the span.


122 posted on 03/16/2018 1:53:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Ambrosia

We don’t need any stinking support gringo. There you go using English like your special or something.


123 posted on 03/16/2018 1:53:59 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Its reaction of the live loads, in tbis case foot traffic on the support system. Remember 9/11 and the pictures of all the people crossing the bridges on foot. There were serious concerns about that as it can create a harmonic rhythm that could lead to unexpected internal stresses.


124 posted on 03/16/2018 1:54:44 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Ambrosia

“Who in the world would let cars go under a bridge, that does not have the support structure, and test it at the same time?”

Answer: Florida, the same state that essentially “allowed” Nick Cruz to go on a killing spreed at Parkland High School. I had a different impression of Florida until these latest events, now I rank it right behind New Jersey and Illinois as an “emerging $hit hole state!”


125 posted on 03/16/2018 1:57:34 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: C19fan

Was this an affirmative action contract award?


126 posted on 03/16/2018 1:58:38 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: meatloaf

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You have no idea what you’re talking about!

A post tension PCC structure is formed over an errected platform that remains in place until the structure is fully cured and the cables strung through tubes that were carefully placed in the forms before the concrete was placed.

The beams, deck, and bottom are what are poured!

I did the layout of the very first PT bridge that was built in the US.
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127 posted on 03/16/2018 1:59:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: C19fan

“... why a central tower which is usually built to support a suspension bridge was not in place when it collapsed onto Tamiami Trail on Thursday afternoon.”

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Perhaps it is not part of the design used by H1-B engineers.


128 posted on 03/16/2018 1:59:54 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: rbg81

That is very possible, and you could be right on. It makes no sense otherwise.


129 posted on 03/16/2018 2:00:40 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Well, there was a waterway to be crossed as well.

We still don’t know the proximate cause for the failure. The cable support column had to be constructed after the spans were inplace.

Aside from the error that resulted in failure, the primary error seems to be allowing traffic while work was in progress


130 posted on 03/16/2018 2:00:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Alberta's Child

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I agree with your assertion, but anyway, it broke exactly where the workers stood.
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131 posted on 03/16/2018 2:02:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“.... too phallic with the central tower.”

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Too mosque-like perhaps.


132 posted on 03/16/2018 2:03:04 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: marktwain

Sadly, people had to die to find out the design is either flawed, materials bad, or kick backs for short cuts caused it to fail.

It still shocks me that anyone would test a bridge, while allowing cars to go under it, or not have cables and tower in place before testing!


133 posted on 03/16/2018 2:03:06 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: bert

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>> “The cable support column had to be constructed after the spans were inplace” <<

That makes zero sense!

It should be the very first thing that was built.
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134 posted on 03/16/2018 2:03:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PeteePie

LOL....I am glad I don’t have young children, school age, because it would be home schooling, or Christian School.


135 posted on 03/16/2018 2:04:17 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: 353FMG

Perhaps it is not part of the design used by H1-B engineers.
= = =

The Tower has male Phallic symbolism.

So it is eliminated.


136 posted on 03/16/2018 2:04:49 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: editor-surveyor

Understood. I suspect that was a coincidence, but I’m open to the possibility that they were a contributing factor in the collapse.


137 posted on 03/16/2018 2:05:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Keyhopper

Shouldn’t that be followed by (sarc). lol


138 posted on 03/16/2018 2:06:25 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: Alberta's Child

There is definitely steel in the bridge but I was expecting much more.3x or 4x times what I am seeing.


139 posted on 03/16/2018 2:06:52 PM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbotl)
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To: Alberta's Child

A rope bridge would have sufficed.


140 posted on 03/16/2018 2:06:52 PM PDT by 353FMG
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