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Uproar after New Jersey high school allegedly suspends students over gun-range photo
Fox News ^ | 3-19-2018 | Lukas Mikelionis

Posted on 03/19/2018 4:06:14 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: eastexsteve

No we just removed somebody where I live by recall petition.


41 posted on 03/19/2018 8:29:05 PM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: BobL

If you work in private industry, you have made a contract with your employer to follow the company rules.

That is different than your constitutional rights, which this student has re his outside of the school activities if they don’t directly relate to the school-safety, slander of, false accusations against, and prohibited behavior that is either disruptive or dangerous.

A teacher cannot hit a student. That’s a crime. A teacher cannot have illegal sexual activity, if at all, with a student (age is occasionally an issue). The same for religious or racial or ethnic discrimination (Federal law).

Just because these are “government schools”, it does not necessarily mean that THEIR RULES are legal re local, state or Federal law.

Another poster said that courts are reluctant to get into this issue but that has been changing over the past 20 years or so. Just because they are “reluctant” to address a legal issue doesn’t mean that the “issue” isn’t a constitutional right that covers students. It is a very fluid situation and I predict that it will change even more in the near future because of pending cases, mainly from conservative parents/law groups against a growing leftist/neo-Marxist authoritarian trend in how schools are run.

Lots of us cannot afford to put our children into private schools (when my kids were your). If you can, fine. However, how about giving me about $30,000 a year to put my step-grandchild into a private school for children with visual handicaps? His parents are having a difficult time right now and cannot afford it either.

When can I expect your gracious check?


42 posted on 03/19/2018 9:01:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DarthVader
No we just removed somebody where I live by recall petition.

The superintendent is hired, not elected. And, once he gets hired, it takes dynamite to get him out. The superintendent is the dangerous one. School board members are usually well-meaning but ignorant of how things work. That's why they usually vote with and back any decisions by the superintendent. The superintendent is really the one who runs the district.

43 posted on 03/20/2018 4:29:21 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

Tell me on how that is supposed to work!s\

https://www.change.org/p/school-committee-remove-dr-pope-as-superintendent-of-marlborough-schools

https://www.communityadvocate.com/2012/06/27/updated-pope-to-leave-marlborough-school-superintendent-post/


44 posted on 03/20/2018 7:41:07 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: DarthVader
Tell me on how that is supposed to work!s\ https://www.change.org/p/school-committee-remove-dr-pope-as-superintendent-of-marlborough-schools

https://www.communityadvocate.com/2012/06/27/updated-pope-to-leave-marlborough-school-superintendent-post/

I don't know what state you are in, but it wouldn't work this way in mine. The superintendent is hired with a contract, usually very beneficial to him. The only times I have seen a superintendent removed turned out to be insanely costly to the district, as they had to buy out his contract, and give him a ton of extra money and incentives. What I have successfully seen is the superintendent assigned duties that he doesn't want to do which will force him to leave. But, that was in the old days, and superintendents these days have become wise to that tactic, and word their contracts to keep that from happening.

You're not talking to another swivel-chair computer piker here. I've been a student/parent advocate since the early 1990's, and taken on MANY school districts. No matter how nasty it got, the superintendent was always the last man standing after teachers and other administrators were given the boot, and the district paid out big bucks in damages. Anytime a Texas superintendent comes under fire, the Texas Association of School Administrators steps in with their army of lawyers, and their only objective will be to protect the superintendents job for as long as he wants to stay. And, they are VERY politically connected and VERY powerful.

45 posted on 03/21/2018 5:03:58 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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"Its none of the school district’s business to tell parents how they can raise kids."

The people seem more then willing to give their parental rights over to the schools (government) when their babies are only three and four years old in order to rid themselves of the responsibility of rearing there own children... I'm tempted to say, they get what they deserve... But nobody deserves to have their kids taken away from them... Well, maybe some do........

46 posted on 03/21/2018 5:31:39 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: eastexsteve

I have seen them turned out by direct petition like this goofball was. Or I have seen it come the other way by driving out a school board member then firing the superintendent. What a shame it is for you folks having such a hard time to remove a bad public servant.


47 posted on 03/21/2018 6:17:36 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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