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1 posted on 03/20/2018 8:38:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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People were tired after WWI. Now we’re tired after Viet Nam and endless Gulf wars that solve nothing.


2 posted on 03/20/2018 8:43:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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My understanding is that WW2 was three wars in one, not two. First there was the war in Europe, North Africa and the Atlantic, between the Axis and Allies. Then you have the Russian front, between the Germans and Soviets. Finally, the Pacific War was fought between the Japanese and Allies. Currently I am covering the third conflict in my podcast on Southeast Asian history.


3 posted on 03/20/2018 8:46:40 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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A lot of Americans will have to die before this country fights with the resolve and ferocity that it had in the Second Word War. Even then, i’m not so sure.

Millions of people in this country side with our enemies. Millions.


4 posted on 03/20/2018 8:51:43 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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Cultural Maxism does tend to tire one out.
Overwhelmed, in fact!
And, after all, OVERWHELM IS “their” goal, now largely achieved via enemy within/without!
GunnyG@PlanetWTF?
Go: POTUS.45! Mr. Cocked & Locked!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


5 posted on 03/20/2018 8:51:47 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Kaslin
Read the book review in NR and heard him talking about it (C-Span maybe).

Made some great points - so Germany (or Japan) never really thought it through. The US was their biggest enemy, and neither had a way to reach us.
Germany had no navy, and neither country had long-range bombers (or transports).
Neither had their own natural resources (like we did) - they were dependent on getting iron ore and oil (and etc) from across vast, hostile distances.

What the hell WAS their end-game?

7 posted on 03/20/2018 8:56:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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Hanson also sets up the thesis that the Axis Powers succeeded initially only because of the hesitance and even fecklessness of the Allies during the late thirties, when the Nazis and the Bushido Empire expanded without resistance to take regional control and acquire influence, and even more while the major Allied powers pretended not to see the threat or, in some cases, refused to do anything to stop the aggression.

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That thesis is nothing new. Churchill and others knew that and were very frustrated because of it.


8 posted on 03/20/2018 9:01:06 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Marking.


9 posted on 03/20/2018 9:06:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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I saw VDH on tv a few months back.

He had an absolutely brilliant observation about WWII.

He talked about the impact of the British and American heavy bombers against the Nazis.

He said that the heavy bombing of Germany caused the Nazis to pull their 88mm guns off the Russian front to fire at the bombers.

This allowed the Russian tanks to be much more successful and eventually overrun the Nazis.

What a brilliant observation!

I believe he said that this kept 10,000 88s off the Russian front.


14 posted on 03/20/2018 9:24:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin; ransomnote; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...

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20 posted on 03/20/2018 10:26:15 AM PDT by bitt (The first to squeal gets the best deal.)
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23 posted on 03/20/2018 11:29:49 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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I'm on my second reading of this book now. Brilliant effort, solid analysis backed up by extensive citation. A lot of analysis. A LOT.

It certainly isn't a primer on the war, that's for sure, in the fashion of John Keegan's one-volume history. It is divided into subject-matter sections that are within themselves chronological but overall, the book isn't. VDH had a little fun with some of the titles - four of them are Earth (infantry and army matters), Air (the air war), Water (naval matters), and Fire (new weapons technology), after the classical Elements. Some of his observations are commonplace but take on a new significance under scrutiny, for example, that the Axis never really did act as if they were allied to one another, no overall strategies or shared campaign plans, and when the Germans did act to save Mussolini's African campaigns they did so at the expense of resources that would have gone into the Barbarossa campaign, whose success it cost them, and it may have cost them the war. Or that Hitler quixotically declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor without securing any guarantee from the Japanese that they would hold the Soviet armies on the Manchurian border, which armies ended up sealing 6th Army's fate at Stalingrad. Or that even while the Germans were in death-grips with the Red Army their Japanese allies were allowing American Lend-Lease supplies to reach the Soviets through Vladivostok unmolested (50% of them if VDH's sources are correct) through the entire war, even when they themselves were being ground up by the U.S. Navy.

Great stuff, great resource book, and food for a lot of thought. Highly recommended.

25 posted on 03/20/2018 11:33:18 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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I just finished reading this book. I highly recommend it.


29 posted on 03/20/2018 12:14:40 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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    odd things like the German Army that committed to Operation Barbarossa in the East being dependent on horses and surprisingly ragtag.

A captured German officer was allowed to watch some of the massive amount of supplies being brought onshore at Omaha Beach. He asked, "Where are all the horses?"

    Germany and Japan just didn't have the industrial capacity and resources to match American power and competence in warfare – supplies, manpower, firepower.

Japan's plan was to force the US into a negotiated settlement before we could get up to speed.  Yamamoto knew anything else was a loss.

    The mighty B-29 was a difference-maker in the last stages of the Pacific war.

Six hundred twenty-one US bombs were dropped from altitude at the Battle of Midway. Not a single one hit anything but water.  On a side note, American torpedoes going into the war were so ineffective as to be scandalous, and the bigwigs in DC blamed the problem on the sub skippers.

    The Hellcat and Corsair were a match for the Zero when they came on line.

The Zero was supreme going into the war. A Zero weighed about the same as a modern SUV with a radial engine that produced 1020 horsepower, later 1130 HP.  If you can imagine driving as SUV with over a thousand horsepower, that's what it was like handling a Zero.

      As the war went on, American industry continued high-volume production

At the end of the war, the US had over a hundred aircraft carriers.

    still suffering from the immediate trauma of the First World War – chose to tear itself apart in 1939

I hope Hanson's book doesn't begin in the thirties.  The roots of WWII do back directly to the draconian punishment France insisted on dealing out to Germany at Versailles, the end of WWI.  While the US and Britain looked the other way, France drove Germany into the economic ground.  The French probably deserved to be overthrown and occupied by Germany and the French still haven't forgiven us for liberating them.
36 posted on 03/20/2018 1:33:54 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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I read this book and it is a tour de force offering facts and analysis across numerous major topic areas of how the war was fought and why it ended as it did. There are the well-known blunders, but there are other, less obvious factors, among them, the manufacturing power of the USA and the USSR (and to a lesser extent, England), Germany’s poor manufacturing choices, such as too many vanity and special weapons projects, dissipating manufacturing manpower, money and resources that could have been used to focus on producing massive numbers of additional superb weapons (88’s, Me109’s, trucks, Sturmgewehr 44’s) as force multipliers. Many FReepers are very knowledgeable and astute enough to know a lot of the points but the sheer force and sweep of VDH’s arguments is a pleasure for someone who wants a “big picture” feel for the whole shooting match.

Yes, I’m a VDH fanboy. The man is brilliant, a fine writer and an incredibly solid conservative. What’s not to like?


39 posted on 03/20/2018 4:36:08 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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I read this book and it is a tour de force offering facts and analysis across numerous major topic areas of how the war was fought and why it ended as it did. There are the well-known blunders, but there are other, less obvious factors, among them, the manufacturing power of the USA and the USSR (and to a lesser extent, England), Germany’s poor manufacturing choices, such as too many vanity and special weapons projects, dissipating manufacturing manpower, money and resources that could have been used to focus on producing massive numbers of additional superb weapons (88’s, Me109’s, trucks, Sturmgewehr 44’s) as force multipliers. Many FReepers are very knowledgeable and astute enough to know a lot of the points but the sheer force and sweep of VDH’s arguments is a pleasure for someone who wants a “big picture” feel for the whole shooting match.

Yes, I’m a VDH fanboy. The man is brilliant, a fine writer and an incredibly solid conservative. What’s not to like?


40 posted on 03/20/2018 4:36:08 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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