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Dear Uber, et al. Vehicles need human drivers
Hot Air.com ^ | March 20, 2018 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 03/20/2018 10:51:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ican'tbelieveit

See..you erred again.
You must be getting fluster defending your genius?

I think you meant made up facts get thrown out by the [educated]
I hope you are not a self driving car programmer.
You are prone to much human error.
BTW how and I able to communicate with you via a wire a battery and a half coconut shell?


141 posted on 03/21/2018 12:09:46 PM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Leep

You are making up facts to support your world view. This is a made up fact by you:

The reality is a majority of the population is uncomfortable or not interested in self driving cars.


142 posted on 03/21/2018 12:15:35 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Let’s just both agree you are delusional and leave it at that.
(+_+)


143 posted on 03/21/2018 12:20:28 PM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Leep

I am not the one posting absolute lies as fact.


144 posted on 03/21/2018 2:21:03 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Cronos

Thank you Cronos. We’re all in this together.


145 posted on 03/21/2018 2:51:46 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
I doubt auto-driving software will ever be programed to avoid running into some idiot who does something totally irrational, illegal and just plain stupid.

This. There are instances where self-driving cars will be a benefit, albeit with human monitoring of some kind. But I think we're a long way off from having self-driving cars on a large scale.

146 posted on 03/21/2018 9:36:42 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner

Agreed...I think this entire concept is being rushed way beyond the technology.


147 posted on 03/22/2018 2:22:32 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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To: precisionshootist

I totally agree with you.

Where I live, a driverless car makes zero sense, because even cell phones don’t work here...lol Maybe in a downtown area where buses service, but still, I do not see driverless cars as the answer to transportation issues.

America is about the freedom to go where you want, when you want, and with your own transportation....to leave when you want. If you can afford it.... therefore, a good economy makes that possible.


148 posted on 03/22/2018 9:30:03 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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149 posted on 03/22/2018 9:30:25 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Correct and this is seen increasingly in Japan where more traffic deaths are due to 65+ year olds than other age groups


150 posted on 03/23/2018 2:37:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Leep
1. This doesn't have to do with gubmint. Keep those idiots out of it.

2. If you live in a city or near a city and commute then AVs will be cost effective -- think about it, most of the time your car is parked (95% on average for most people) - now if you could get anothe means of transport quickly each time you needed it, it would make sense. AND the car would be 95% utilized (instead of sitting idle) so cost effective

BUT, if you live in the countryside or use your car for pleasure then it is something completely different

"Sure you can drive your car but gas/oil will be crazy expensive.The same way obozo told us we can keep our coal." - Not related to AVs, AVs can technically be ICEs or Electric or whatever

"I can foresee a time when car control, like gun control, will become an issue. Also,I seriously doubt there will NOT be heavy restrictions on manual driven cars." -- in the cities yes, just as you have one-way lanes, congestion charges, no traffic areas etc. Most likely also in expressways. But not in the countryside.

151 posted on 03/23/2018 2:42:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Leep; ican'tbelieveit
1. Elctric car ownership in the USA - The market share is miniscule as a whole at 1.07% But far more on the coasts at 5% in California -- electric cars make a lot of sense in the dense north-east, in cities in Texas and in europe and Asia. They don't make sense in the wide open spaces. Both ICEs and EVs have roles to play. I don't believe ICEs will go out completely but we will have more and my hybrids

2. The vast majority do not reject AVs - they are wary and want safeguards but they do not reject them. you can say the vast majority don't see a need for them. But tha'ts true for mobile phones, iPads etc.

152 posted on 03/23/2018 2:47:16 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: precisionshootist
there is a massive demand for them -- in New Zeaqland, Germany, China, India etc. the wind farms provide most of the electricity. By subsidising them in the USA the USA ensured that there were American companies in this technological area.

You want to stop the subsidies, ok, but then be prepared for the rest of the world to leap ahead in this technology

AV technology is not driven due to "left wing ideology" rather due to simple market economics -- if Uber creates robotaxis it reduces its expenses by 40% (cost of the driver) and makes a killing in the market. Also more and more people want cruise-control, self-parking etc. for their cars, that's the first step to AV.

Electric cars are increasingly popular over short distances as the cost of batteries fall.

Driverless cars are freedom for some folks. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

153 posted on 03/23/2018 3:00:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
They released the dash cam video of the "accident". The women is literally walking her bike across the street. She did not "dart" out. Any human behind the wheel would have easily been able to avoid hitting her. There were no other cars around and a simple move to the left would have saved this women's life. They are going to try to blame the backup driver who looked to not be paying attention but the reality is a human is not going to be able to react fast enough to backup a machine. The human must be driving.

This video proves these things need to be taken off our public streets immediately. Uber will get sued big time and justifiably so.

154 posted on 03/23/2018 6:41:41 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Yes, they need to be sued. It will help the development of AV


155 posted on 03/23/2018 7:00:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

I was making the point that the government will not directly prohibit manually operated cars.
Not openly anyhow.
They will do what they always do.
Heavily tax the gas and oil and make it cost prohibitive to operate them for.
You say “keep the government out”
You are kidding yourself if you think the government, particularly the social engineers,will not control whatever outcome THEY want.
Like the Global Warmers who would eliminate gas and oil entirely if they could.


156 posted on 03/23/2018 7:18:51 AM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Leep
What is your point then if you think the government is going to tax gas and oil?

If they do that and you use a hubrid or an electric or a hydrogen vehicle, then big deal

And how is that linked to AVs? AVs are a private affair

Come on, one can say even without AVs that the government could try to control you the way you state

157 posted on 03/23/2018 7:41:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

In “the future” you will have the options to drive manual gas operated vehicles.
However,unless you are wealthy you are wealthy, you will not be able afford to drive them.

My overall point is..i am not interested in self driving cars.
Unless i am misreading various polls i have seen..neither is the majority of the population.
I don’t know how to post sites using my phone but gallop just did a poll.
Also,i Will miss hopping on my motorcycle and going anywhere i want ..anytime i want.


158 posted on 03/23/2018 8:11:07 AM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Cronos

And yes even with, or without, AVs the government IS controlling us.
But the amount of control possible with self driving cars will be irresistible to the social engeneering control freaks.
Like i’ve said ..hope I am wrong.


159 posted on 03/23/2018 10:40:47 AM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Leep
In “the future” you will have the options to drive manual gas operated vehicles. However,unless you are wealthy you are wealthy, you will not be able afford to drive them. -- I don't think so - the market forces will dictate what people chose.

neither is the majority of the population. - that is true NOW with the gallup poll at 62%. But this was the same with ICEs, trains, airplanes. The Public opinion changes.

I love my motorcycle too and I don't see that being banned

160 posted on 03/24/2018 12:25:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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