Posted on 03/22/2018 9:31:12 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
They need to curtail live this testing before more people get killed.
Or uncommon. It doesn't matter. Their crap killed a woman. It is very likely that the object recognition, such as it is, didn't work at all. Zero percent success.
BMW’s top engineer today suggested Uber’s fatal Arizona crash was “inevitable” and insisted the Volvo XC90 never had enough technology to drive itself safely.
Sure seems like it is a race to me. I recently read that a state or city was about to allow testing driverless cars as long as they had a remote driver. They may want to rethink after seeing the Uber crash video.
Actually, the first reports never mentioned it. Btw, did they say why they abruptly ended the video at point of impact?
And are their photos of the pre-impact skid marks? I’d sure like to see them.
Blogger heard rumor that LIDAR may have been turned off.
http://ideas.4brad.com/it-certainly-looks-bad-uber
It would have to be used with other sensors. The radar would “sound the alert”, passing the job of object discrimination to another subsystem. Slowing down might have been good enough in this case.
That type of radar never detected leaves. There wasn’t enough reflection. It could see movement in the jungle, alerting the guy with the night vision to “check it out”. Maybe if the Uber car just slowed down a little that woman would still be alive. I slow down when I think a pedestrian is near the road, don’t you?
I've read that as well, but it didn't stop. It kind of leads me to believe the lidar and radar were disabled for whatever reason. Being a test car maybe it had some manual switches that were hit by mistake. I am more inclined to think it was misconfigured by an over the air update or an operator error in the Uber office. We are going to have to wait for a leak or report from NTSB..
No mention if the Tesla Autopilot was enabled. Driver died from his injuries. Not good news for auto tech this week.
I don't know what they actually use for CPUs. My recent experience with young ones, however, is that they are locked into the Arduino mindset. That is not good. There isn't much software sophistication being disseminated in Arduino Land.
I’ve seen reports from industry insiders that suggest the Waymo lawsuit set them back and they were trying to do too much too fast. One report I read was critical of their decision to only go with one safety driver.
We the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing so much for so long with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.
It was embroidered in Old English in red and green, with holly fronds around the borders.
Yes it is impossible to believe an object in the middle of the road was missed.. lidar does not rely on visible light.. she didn’t “dart out” in front of the car as the original reports claimed. She was clearly walking her bike across the street.
Yes, system failure. The sensors should have spotted the woman. She was right out in the open.
indeed - the victim, Elaine, was carefully crossing the street safely and exercising normal due care.
It was *not* at a crosswalk.
That is not exercising normal due care.
I think sensors failed, but Elaine was hardly exercising normal due care.
I am sure the lidar detected her, but for whatever reason decided she wasn’t something to worry about.
Uber has played fast and lose its entire existence... not surprised in the least that the first person killed by one of these involved an Uber vehicle.
These things have no business on city streets, the tech is NOWHERE near fully baked it.. its DECADES away.
Stop blaming the victim here... She didn’t dart out in traffic, she was calmly walking her bike across the street.... If you believe ever person who doesn’t cross at a crosswalk is deserving of death, or isn’t using “due care” you are crazy.
The original reports of her “DARTING OUT” were complete lies... she was calmly walking across the street, and there is no excuse for her not to have been seen, nor for there to have been no reaction to her being there. This is not a situation where a child darted out from behind a parked car and wasn’t seen until it was too late.
This woman was mowed down, there is no excuse for it. The whole argument for autonomous vehicles is that they are safer than human drivers, because they never lose attention... yet here is someone casually walking across the street, and the vehicle just kept driving at 40MPH right through her as if she wasn’t even there.
The folks not exercising due care are the MORONS who let these vehicles on city streets in the first place. Autonomous driving is a 90-10/80-20 problem, meaning 80 to 90% of all the effort will be in the last 10-20% of the problem... We are DECADES away from autonomous driving vehicles on city streets....
Hell we don’t even allow autonomous vehicles on interstates, which is a MUCH simpler problem. Wal mart would save 100K+ a year for ever semi driver they take off the roads.... there are 3 Million CDL drivers in the US doing long distance runs.... each one off the road would save 100-200k a year in wages.. yet this much simpler problem... NO CROSS TRAFFIC, everyone going the same direction, limited access and egress is not fully autonomous.... yet we have them driving on city streets which is a are far far more complicated problem???? Ridiculous.
Hell, these UBER cars are caught routinely running red lights in Arizona.... that’s about the most basic driving rule there is, and the autonomous system isn’t obeying that one consistently.
victim blaming much ?
streets are for people
that’s the law
Per the Daily Mail (UK), the daughter settled out of court with Uber.
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