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To: TianaHighrider

“Get every little thing their way”? Did you see this monstrosity of an omnibus bill that he signed today? Does that seem like a “little thing”? No, we got screwed hard and President Trump was the only one who could have stopped it which is why we put him in office. But he didn’t and we have a right to be outraged.


69 posted on 03/23/2018 5:20:12 PM PDT by Squeako (You can lead a progressive to water, but can you make him drown?)
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To: Squeako

President Trump could not have stopped that monster. They were going to pass it with our without him.
They could also pass it without the military funding - with or without him. This is not his fault. It is Congress’s fault. It is not what he wanted. It is not what we wanted. It is what Congress wanted. And they have the power and the votes there for this.

I don’t like it any more than you do. But it is true he had little choice and could have come out worse if he even tried to fight it.

The best he could get right now is to go ahead and take the military money. He KNOWS we are on the brink of war and our military is horribly depleted.

Read those last sentences again. That is probably what he is most aware of. And knows that is what he would have been gambling away. The risks or rejecting the bill was immense with little to gain.


71 posted on 03/23/2018 5:29:44 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (Deplorable me)
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To: Squeako
Congress very nearly had a veto override vote in both houses. They could easily have gotten the very few remaining votes, if the President hadn't signed.

Here's why Congress spends big whether a president wants to or not. I posted it many times a few years ago.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

And as accessed a long time ago,...

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

The most influential Democrats and Republicans want big government spending. The only remedy is a debt collapse, which would force big layoffs and a reduction of the previously mentioned political influence. More savvy now?


72 posted on 03/23/2018 5:36:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Squeako

Outrage is what keeps people from writing to politicians, voting or joining an organization that defends our Second Amendment. Most conservative voters who post their outrage are useless. Politicians don’t know what their opinions are or that they even exist.

Many very large, Democrat-inclined organizations for government employees and their business partners know that. They make enormous compromises all the way, and take what they want inch by inch, very incrementally. They get each inch by writing directly to political representatives and being paying members of lobby organizations (money).


73 posted on 03/23/2018 5:41:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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