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Media Bias on guns: Chicago Fire: Does ammunition in a fire pose a real threat to firemen?
Crime Prevention Research Center ^ | March 30, 2018

Posted on 04/01/2018 11:19:30 AM PDT by rogerantone1

In Episode 15 of Season 6 (March 22, 2018), Chicago Fire shows scenes where a man’s ammunition is set off by a fire. Bullets shoot everywhere, seriously wounding both the man’s mother and a fireman.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; cprc; hollywood; mediabias
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To: Sooth2222

They did find that champagne bottles cooking off can be impressive - not to mention water heaters with the safeties capped.


41 posted on 04/01/2018 12:50:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Mark
Yes, it is the casing that flies, not the lead.

Not always the casings ,as vol. fireman in a rural community many moons ago ,we had a few men hit with primers . We worried more about aerosol cans blowing-up ,seen them go 30-40 feet in the air or come threw a window like a rocket.

42 posted on 04/01/2018 12:51:26 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: rogerantone1

I dont watch that show.


43 posted on 04/01/2018 12:51:30 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: rogerantone1

Ran a call once with large store of cooking ammo. Without pressure containment of the shell body and a rifled cylinder to direct the bullet the velocity is not generated. Still scary and metal can still fly from exploding cartridge casings, no cool.


44 posted on 04/01/2018 12:58:25 PM PDT by databoss
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To: Sooth2222
Mythbusters put ammo in a fire a few years ago. It popped but didn't do much.

I saw that episode!

45 posted on 04/01/2018 12:59:04 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: Lazamataz
"The only rounds that would pose a danger are those in a loaded firearm, that cook off from the heat."

Egg-zackerly.

46 posted on 04/01/2018 1:06:52 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: What would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: Leaning Right
"My guess is that a cartridge in a fire would behave like a mini hand grenade, with a range of a few feet or so."

You guess wrong; see other replies.

47 posted on 04/01/2018 1:08:56 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: What would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: rogerantone1

I wonder which is more dangerous for a Firefighter, being Injured by Boxes of Cartridges in a Fire or Dying of Electrocution using the Jaws of Life to save a Liberal Envirowack trapped in an Electric Car?


48 posted on 04/01/2018 1:19:48 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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To: rogerantone1

If it were true then thousands of firemen and others would have been killed and injured over the decades, it would have made the news dozens of times and many laws would have been passed to deal with it. Laws with strong bi-partisan support, NRA support and the support of gun owner’s in general.

None of that has ever happened.


49 posted on 04/01/2018 1:26:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: SpaceBar

mv = mv


50 posted on 04/01/2018 1:38:18 PM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: Redbob

I’ve looked around a bit more since my previous post. A number of sources say that the brass often fragments into small, flying pieces. So I think I’ll stand behind my “mini hand grenade” comment.

The key word here is “mini”. The pieces of brass - if any - would be small and light.


51 posted on 04/01/2018 1:46:40 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ripnbang
“I will never, ever infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms,” Trump said. “Never ever.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-nra-eight-year-assault-gun-rights-over-n752446

Trump Tells N.R.A. Convention, ‘I Am Going to Come Through for You
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/us/politics/donald-trump-nra.html

President Donald Trump took a hammer to Republicans’ usual talking points Wednesday, suggesting authorities skirt “due process” to seize guns from people who pose a public safety risk and accusing GOP lawmakers of being too “afraid” to stand up to the National Rifle Association.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/trump-guns-nra-gop-pat-toomey-430782

Bump stock ban via edict was found to be unlawful by the Obama Administration. Prominent firearms researcher and expert John Lott panned the NCIS fix. Special orders to take guns without warrant is an infringement.

But worst of all Trumps backsliding has opened the way for downstream Republicans to do the same as has happened in Florida and Vermont with clear Constitutional infractions.

From Trump, crickets. Hearing protection act, dead. Reciprocity, dead.

On the other hand, piss poor appointments he has down pat, biggest increase in all of the liberals spending priorities he approves, the Wall and immigration curtail, muh not so much. Some friend.

52 posted on 04/01/2018 2:12:54 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Lazamataz
What is the correct wine to serve with Baked Glock Casserole?

No wine. Colt 45 Malt Liquor!

53 posted on 04/01/2018 2:25:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: montomike
mv = mv means both masses are the same.

Mv = mV is what you want, where M is the mass of the lead and m is the mass of the brass. Therefore, V = (Mv)/m gives the speed of the brass, which will be greater than the speed of the lead.

If, instead, you put the brass in a vice so it can't move without crushing it, the lead would come out faster.

54 posted on 04/01/2018 2:55:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,Hollywood,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: rogerantone1; All
This is the best I've found so far. He hits a Ramset load with a hammer. Ouch. Good thing the dumbass had safety glasses in case that hit him in the eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kFzpvWm5ak

(There is another of a guy who did this and went to the hospital, but they said it was an abrasion and put a band-aid on it.)

55 posted on 04/01/2018 3:17:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,Hollywood,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: yarddog

It makes sense that the casing would fly rather than the bullet (if in fact anything flew at all). The casing is much lighter.


56 posted on 04/01/2018 3:38:20 PM PDT by matt1234 (Jan. 20, 2017: the national nightmare ended.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

As a stupid kid I put a shotgun cartridge in the fork of a tree, and then stood back aways to try to hit the primer with my .22. I hit the shotgun shell the first time - the .22 richochet off and hit my body! I missed the primer though - and didn’t try again! I was lucky - that was in the days before eye protection was even a thought.


57 posted on 04/01/2018 3:44:20 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: rogerantone1; All

Here’s a better one. A 50 caliber sitting on the floor in a microwave.

Hmm. I don’t think I would like to be hit by that bullet. Notice the damage done to the door. Best action starts at 3:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6NcD2rZ9H4


58 posted on 04/01/2018 3:47:36 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,Hollywood,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: 21twelve
The worst I did was take a 9-ball shotgun shell apart and removed the powder. I put it in a bottle cap on our stove (about 60 years ago) and lit it with a match. I got a nice "whoomp" and a great fireball that left a gray stain on the kitchen ceiling. Mom didn't notice it for a few days. I told her I was doing another of my experiments. Oh, OK. She was used to that.

Then, that night, I cut the shell down until there was just brass. I put it on the basement floor, primer up, and used a punch and a hammer to smack it. BLAM! My ears were ringing, but I heard my dad say from upstairs, "What are are you doing?" My reply was, "Oh, nothing." "Are you OK?" "Yeah."

End of story.

Another time, when I was home alone (bad idea to leave me alone), I put a small glass bottle of rubbing alcohol in the incinerator in our basement and lit the burner. A while later, I was rewarded with a great boom! Blew the vent pipe out of the chimney and blew the lid off the incinerator. I put them back where they belonged and no one knew what happened.

59 posted on 04/01/2018 5:15:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,Hollywood,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: rogerantone1

A .45 acp will travel about 8 to 12 feet.


60 posted on 04/01/2018 5:26:27 PM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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