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To: Pravious

To those who say President Trump should simply order compliance or fire Rosenstein, how would that help?

Current and former FBI/DOJ people need to go to jail. Exactly who, I don’t know.

President Trump experienced some blowback when McCabe was fired and he had nothing to do with that. And the blowback wasn’t just confined to Democrats.

The FBI/DOJ won’t undergo meaningful reform unless and until some of its employees or former employees go to jail.

Oversight is for Congress. They cannot put people in jail. If declassifying documents or firing people won’t help send people to jail, why do it?


13 posted on 04/08/2018 3:46:44 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Rumierules
"To those who say President Trump should simply order compliance or fire Rosenstein, how would that help?"

Because those who are employed by the FBI and DOJ are part of the executive branch, and the President can fire them. If the President orders an action to be done (turn over papers) and is refused, he has grounds to terminate them.

Congress can investigate and make recommendations to the President, but cannot hire or fire (advise and consent).

62 posted on 04/08/2018 5:46:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Rumierules

Cause sometimes the big stick works best.


70 posted on 04/08/2018 6:44:28 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Rumierules
Oversight is for Congress. They cannot put people in jail.

Actually they can. Congress even used to have its own jail within the Capital complex. And used it to jail those in Contempt of Congress all under intrinsic Congressional authority with zero input from the Executive Branch. That was routine through the 1800s. Since the arrival of the Progressives Congress gradually delegated this power to the Executive Branch, finally retasking its jail space to other purposes under FDR, IIRC. If the House would reclaim its real power (step 1, replace Speaker Ryan) there could be stalling Obamabots cooling their heels therein and neither the Executive nor Judicial branches could free them. The MSM would go nuts nuttier. The first new inmate should have been Holder when Congress ruled him in contempt, but delegated all consequences of that haplessly for Holder to enforce upon himself.

Plausibly we can get there via the midterms. Many RINOs are retiring. Primary some more where we can improve things. Hold the House with a Conservative, pro-American, rather than pro-Uniparty, GOP caucus. Might not reach a majority of the whole, but needs to be enough to rule the GOP caucus as firmly as the past leadership ruled against us, and to work well enough with Trump for squishy RINOs to know they'll have zero power unless they go along with the right side. Trump is willing to take the point, but would get more done if he didn't have to all the time.

92 posted on 04/08/2018 9:39:50 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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