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Jonah Goldberg’s "Suicide Of The West"
Hotair.com ^ | 4-16-19 | John Sexton

Posted on 04/16/2018 3:17:44 PM PDT by DeweyCA

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Leftism/Progressivism, whatever you want to call it, is Satanic in nature and methodology. It originates from the same impulse that was attributed to Satan's downfall, and the original sin of Adam and Eve. It is the sin of hubris, pride, self-centeredness and a lack of gratitude for what God had already given them. It was their pride and self-centeredness that led them to be ungrateful and to feel that God had cheated them. They thought that they knew better than God on what they should do and have. They then considered themselves to be not only as smart as God, but also that they should have unlimited resources (like God), and that they were as incorruptible as God. They would not honor God or be thankful for what He had given to them (Romans 1:21).

America's Founding Fathers were heavily influenced by the Judeo-Christian worldview, and realized that nobody was all-wise, incorruptible, or had unlimited resources. As a result, they constructed a government that sought to check and balance anyone's attempt to put themselves in a position to be an authoritarian ruler. Leftists and Progressives believe that they are better than the rest of humanity, both morally and intellectually, and so they should be given authoritarian powers. Their proud egos don't believe in the doctrine of total depravity and original sin. As a result, they are bitter that they don't yet have complete power to impose their will on people and create a utopian heaven on earth. They are ungrateful for the current American system of governance and want to "fundamentally transform" it.

Goldberg and Sexton are close when they talk about ingratitude, but the underlying problem is sin and Leftists' proud inflated sense of self. Leftists are inordinately proud and thus are ungrateful people. That is also why they have no problem engendering envy, resentment and hate in order to motivate more of their voters, even though Leftists know that promoting these vices is harmful to America and to the individuals that they stir up. Leftists, Progressives, Elitists, Democrats, whatever you want to call them, truly are satanic in nature and in their methodology. Saul Alinsky was correct to dedicate his Rules for Radicals to Lucifer.

1 posted on 04/16/2018 3:17:44 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA
Well said DeweyCA! I'd rather read your book.
2 posted on 04/16/2018 3:27:35 PM PDT by donna (Show yourself Senator McCain. We need proof of life!)
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To: DeweyCA

And the Never Trumper Goldberg - a product of nepotism and who apparently has never seen a bathtub or shampoo in his life - has contributed to the suicide of the west.


3 posted on 04/16/2018 3:28:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: DeweyCA

James Burnham wrote the same book back in the early 60s or late 50s


4 posted on 04/16/2018 3:28:37 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: DeweyCA

“future of liberal-Democratic capitalism”

It has no future.

Representative republic, theocracy, or fascism. Take your pick.


5 posted on 04/16/2018 3:30:26 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’ve been reading his columns when they appear in Townhall for the last year and it is all “I hate Trump”.


6 posted on 04/16/2018 3:34:11 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: miss marmelstein

I seem to recall that Jonah has been fine in the past with gay marriage. Not a very conservative or “preserve Western civilization” view.


7 posted on 04/16/2018 3:34:56 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: miss marmelstein

Yep, Goldberg has championed amnesty and non-enforcement of borders and laws.
Nothing will subdue US faster than losing our country from the flood of foreigners.


8 posted on 04/16/2018 3:45:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DeweyCA

Include ‘Jealousy’


9 posted on 04/16/2018 3:52:09 PM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: DeweyCA

I wonder how much Goldberg borrowed from James Burnham’s essay called Suicide of the West from more than 50 years ago:

https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-West-Meaning-Destiny-Liberalism/dp/087000056X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1523919387&sr=8-3&keywords=suicide+of+the+west


10 posted on 04/16/2018 3:57:30 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Probably as much as he lifted from Mark Steyn

Goldberg turned out to be a real disappointment.

is his mother’s board, lucianne still alive?


11 posted on 04/16/2018 3:59:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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-- James Burnham wrote the same book back in the early 60s or late 50s --

Bingo. I wonder if Goldberg gives a hat tip or not.

12 posted on 04/16/2018 4:01:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DeweyCA
Well, Dewey, I appreciate your analysis of Goldberg's premise. However, my take on your differing path is one of a distinction without much of a difference. When you remark,
"Goldberg and Sexton are close when they talk about ingratitude, but the underlying problem is sin and Leftists' proud inflated sense of self. Leftists are inordinately proud and thus are ungrateful people.", it seems to me that you are artfully embellishing Goldberg's stance, id est, ingratitude and ungrateful being on the same side of the coin.

Goldberg's viewpoint is that we live in a miracle about to be unwound by base, tribal, human nature. Your stance that we live in godless times with our Judaeo-Christian heritage being systematically suppressed, while accurate, doesn't seem out of line with Goldberg.

If I had read Goldberg's words without knowing the author, they would still ring a note of veracity, even though they were scripted by a disingenuous Never Trumper.

13 posted on 04/16/2018 4:06:39 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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If Destruction Be Our Lot

Fifty years ago, National Review founding editor James Burnham wrote Suicide of the West: An Essay on the Meaning and Destiny of Liberalism, a book that brilliantly examines the role of modern liberalism in reconciling the West to its geopolitical retreat. Like all of Burnham's books, Suicide of the West combines elegant writing, historical insight, unsentimental political analysis, and an unmatched understanding of power in all its forms. It was Burnham's last book (other than a collection of columns entitled The War We Are In, published in 1967), and it deserves to be remembered as one of the 20th-century's great works of political analysis. ...

Burnham labels liberalism a Weltanschauung, or worldview, a system of belief based on what ought to be instead of what is and has been. At its most fundamental, liberalism is based on an abstract, rationalist view of human nature. Liberals hold that human nature is not fixed but changeable, that humans are perfectible and their potentialities unlimited, that reason can govern the affairs of men, and that human progress is inevitable. In the liberal worldview principles, customs, and religion are obstacles to human progress, not evidence of human nature's essence and limitations. For liberals, there is no evil, no social problem, no disagreement or conflict that cannot be overcome by their enlightened ideology.

I highly recommend Burnham's work. Can't say the same for Goldberg's.

14 posted on 04/16/2018 4:07:24 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DeweyCA

Mass immigration = suicide of the West. Tribalism is just the natural product.


15 posted on 04/16/2018 4:07:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DeweyCA

America is a product of Protestantism. As Protestantism has been undermined and supplanted so has America and the entire West.


16 posted on 04/16/2018 4:17:50 PM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: Thommas

I agreed with Sexton’s and Goldberg’s overall analysis, but think that they did not discuss the underlying cause of the ingratitude. That cause is the Leftists’ inordinate sense of self and their out-sized sinful pride. That is what causes them to be ungrateful. Their self-centered ego makes them think that they are entitled to more than what they have been given, and so they are ungrateful. They do not believe in the fallenness of mankind, and especially not of themselves being fallen, sinful, corruptible individuals.


17 posted on 04/16/2018 4:18:30 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Leftism, at its heart, is the denial of God. Man puts himself on God’s throne and then destruction is inevitable.


18 posted on 04/16/2018 4:24:48 PM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: donna

Well said DeweyCA! I’d rather read your book.
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I’ll second that !


19 posted on 04/16/2018 4:38:20 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: Sam Gamgee

I’ve always disliked Goldberg. I did like this mother at one time.


20 posted on 04/16/2018 4:49:34 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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